Pregnancy of Palin daughter cannot be ignored

09/02/2008 5:33 am 247 comments

 It didn’t take Republicans long – and even some Democrats – to try dissuade those of us in the media from focusing on the news that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is five months pregnant and plans on marrying the father.

Aides to Sen. John McCain quickly took to the airwaves to deplore any conversation regarding Bristol Palin, saying that the issue is a private matter and we should look elsewhere. Even. Sen. Barack Obama made it clear that the children of candidates are off limits.

But of course, that didn’t keep some folks from trying to score political points.

“This is the pro-life choice. The fact that people will criticize her for this shows the astounding extent to which the secular critics of the pro-life movement just don’t get it,” Richard Land, President of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, told David Brody of the Christian Broadcast Network.

“Those who criticize the Palin family don’t understand that we don’t see babies as a punishment but as a blessing. Barack Obama said that if one of his daughters made a mistake and got pregnant out of wedlock he wouldn’t want her to be punished with a child. Pro lifers don’t see a child as punishment.”

Now, for everyone on the left and the right, please, shut up for a moment and consider the broader issue here.

We have a crisis in America and Bristol Palin exemplifies that. She’s an unwed teenager who is now pregnant, forced to raise a child far too soon. She is a teenager who chose to have pre-marital sex, which I thought many of these same evangelicals deplored based on biblical reasons. She is a teenager who had unprotected sex, and should thank the Lord that the young man she was with didn’t have a sexually transmitted disease.

According to The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, 46.8 percent of all high school students say they have had sex, which is a decrease from 54 percent.

That’s the good news. But we shouldn’t be satisfied with almost half of our children making the decision to have sex. Many of them are doing so without any protection, and we have seen an explosion of STDs among teens in the country. In fact, Alaska has one of the highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases among teens.

I can’t forget the young woman in the CNN documentary Black in America who talked about having sex for the first time, only to be infected with HIV. That one decision has altered her life in a significant way.

It’s worthy to examine the issue because Gov. Palin said in 2006 that she was dead set against any federal funding for sex education, but was an avid supporter of abstinence-only funding.

But it’s clear that abstinence-only didn’t work in her own household. So, should she and her supporters re-examine their position?

On my CNN Radio show yesterday, Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) wasn’t too thrilled to discuss the issue of Palin’s daughter, but when pressed, said that she still supports abstinence-only funding, and not sex education funding.

“I think that is the way we have to work without our children and you have to engage parents in this issue,” she said. “This is something you talk about at the kitchen table and you sit down with your children.”

But let’s be honest. A ton of parents aren’t having this conversation, so why not deal with it in the public policy arena?

Bill Bennett, a CNN Contributor and author of “The Book of Virtues,” also said yesterday that “it’s a perfectly legitimate issue to discuss in public policy.”

As an evangelical, I think liberals AND conservatives are wrong on this issue. The situation is so dire and prevalent that it’s wrong for liberals to completely dismiss abstinence, and it’s wrong for conservatives to refuse to accept birth control and condom education as part of a sex education curriculum.

We desperately need comprehensive sex education that incorporates all of these issues if we are to attack the problem. And enough of the blowhards on both sides who think their way is the only way.

While America harnessed its resources to tackle an emerging hurricane on the Gulf Coast, these same politicos and activists tried desperately to run away from a similar issue in St. Paul, Minn., involving our children.

I don’t give a flip about a politician, pro-choice or pro-life activist, or the implications of this story on the presidential chances of Sen. John McCain, Palin, or Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

What matters most – and should be the priority of all – are the thousands upon thousands of young women who are dealing with these issues every day, many of whom don’t have supportive parents with a great healthcare plan.

This is not a Republican issue or Democratic problem. We need to put aside the partisan BS and confront unplanned pregnancies. Let’s do all we can to keep our kids from either having pre-marital sex or unprotected sex, and then we won’t have to deal with them choosing to have an abortion or not, or, as the Palins noted in their statement, seeing our children “grow up faster than we had ever planned” and having to confront “the difficulties of raising a child.”

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  • Clyde Temple, III

    I am thoroughly angered by the choice that the rebugnicans have made thinking that women are stupid enough to believe that Sarah Palin is representative of the second best leader in this country who happens to be a woman. She fails on several fronts:

    Moral Leadership on several counts:

    1. She should not have accepted this nomination in favor of taking care of her home.
    A. Her four month old child needs his mother especially because he has downs syndrome and will take longer to adapt to even a normal family environment but she wants him to be exposed to a voracious American appetite for scandal and personal attack.
    B. She has failed to meet the republican imposed (her very own) standards for moral leadership in raising children. With it being revealed that her 17 year old child daughter is now with child and that she will force her to be married to the father of this child is a bit presumptuous.
    C. She fails the test for parental influence on the teaching of morality and uprightness as demonstrated by her children as evidenced by her daughter having sex outside of marriage. Obviously she either hasn’t taught or she simply has little influence on her daughter when it comes to making stupid choices.
    D. What of her other children? Nuff said!!!
    2. The republicans have imposed on the discourse that the choice for vice president of the United States of America must be immediately ready to be president. Again she fails on several counts:
    A. She has been the governor of a small state for less than three years.
    B. She is CURRENTLY under investigation by her very own state legislature for imposing undue pressure on state officials to fire her ex-brother-n-law from his job as a state trooper. This alone is a distraction that will need her personal presence and attention in the proceedings that will ensue in this investigation.
    C. Being commander in chief of the national guard of a state with a population of less than one million is hardly enough experience to say that she may now assume the role of commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States of America, which by the way has a population of some 300 million plus.

    How can the Republican Party say that this choice is responsible or even remotely sane? By their own party’s standards this candidate must first ask for forgiveness for not being fit to lead, then she will need to ask an unforgiving and vicious party to accept her for being far less than the moral example for leadership they claim that their leader should be for and to them. Given this choice John McCain has asked the American people to make a choice that leaves the country in the worse possible position, having a white house without a vice president. And should the unthinkable happen in the unlikely scenario of their proposed administration we will have no president should she be thrust into the seat of leadership. Even the Alaska Sun Times told us that she is: “…even less qualified than Dan Quayle…” I agree with Nancy Reagan when she said, “Just say no…” I say just say no and should we just say no to John McCain and Sarah Palin.

  • Lucy

    Can we all be serious? Is this the same media that looked down upon Jamie Lynn Spears and Ashlee Simpson? Bristol is very lucky she only got a child from poor choice in sexual matters. And no a child isn’t punishment, but you can’t say its a reward either for a 17 year old in high school. No matter how grown-up she may be her family is still going to be a big part of raising her and her child. I just don’t understand why out of ALL the possible VP choices that McCain had at his fingertips, he chose one that has the most controversial baggage out of all of them! Then again, at least his ticket is in the headlines, even if its mostly about the VP and her ethical and moral dilemmas….

  • G Johnson

    I couldn’t agree more with Mr. Martin. Teenagers having unprotected sex is a major issue, that cannot and should not be ignored. We must realize that the Utopian society that we imagine does not exist. I would love to believe that no one is having unprotected sex and teenagers are really just friends, but in this sexually charged society that we live in, we must come to the realization that unprotected sex is happening. Maybe if this issue was channeled away from being a “Republican issue or Democratic problem,” we could see that it is a people problem.

  • Robin Benson

    Thank you Roland. I agree with you 100%. I took a political position on the issue.

    My problem with all problems and controversy surrounding Sarah Palin is that for the most part, the White House and the office of the President of the United States sets the tone of the values and standards of what our country represent. As citizens we have to ask ourselves, is this the kind message we want to send to our children and the world that in America, it’s ok to have sex and get pregnant before marriage? Are we going to have to wait until Sarah’s trial or investigation is over before she can assume her VP duties, and if God forbid something happens to John McCain, with Bristol being underage, she and the rest of family will move into the White House and possibly her new husband. With all this chaos, where or when does running the come in. As a professional and a mother, I applaud her achievements, but as a parent and citizen of this country, I am tired of the loosy goosey, girl’s gone wild, low illiteracy among our students and their inability to compete at the international level. Let alone being able to understand the cause and affects in conducting research and what it takes to improve the health and well being of our environment, the planet, and the human race. This is the message the White House and the President should be sending to our future (male and female) scientists, engineers, educators, and the world.

  • Michael Michalski

    You really should have just pointed me to this blog instead of lashing out at me. This is very well-written and dead on point.

    Just please refrain from that name-calling when you get on TV. You do much better when you avoid it.

    Thanks!

  • http://www.carlajbradley.com Carla Jeanee Bradley

    Bravo Roland! As someone who is an advocate on this issue, I agree that both positions of abstinence and sex education must be considered. Clearly this “either/or” approach is not working, despite the slight decrease in the number of teen pregnancies. Young people are still spreading STD’s at alarming rates, and this issue must also be discussed.

    Wheter they are in Red states or Blue states, the repercussions of their actions effect all of us as Americans, regardless of where we stand on the issues. In the end, we all pay for those babies that arise in different situations than those the Palin family is experiencing.

    But at least she had a choice. Of course she will marry the father of the child. What else can they do at this point? The whole world is watching. This does not however garauntee the child will be brought up in a loving home as the Palin family has stated will be the case. Many children end up being abused and neglected in similar situations.

    I question the judgement of the mother here, more so than the daughter. Sarah Palin has made her daughter a poster-child of why “abstinence-only” education doesn’t always work, and it’s very unfortunate that she must endure the public scrutiny, while at the same time mentally preparing for motherhood. Although it looks like she’s had a lot of pratice already caring for her baby brother. Family matters such as this only remain private if you don’t force them onto us in a very public manner. At least we’re having the conversation, I guess.

  • Assata

    Here’s a comment that I haven’t heard mention. Why is it said that Gov.Palin is proud of her daughter for her decision to keep the baby. HMMM, “decision to keep the baby”, that sounds like pro choice words to me. I always thought that being Pro Life, there were no decisions to make once you became pregnant. Like you said earlier on the BAisden show, the decision process was already made to 1) have sex 2) unprotected. Now that she’s pregnant, there is not decision or CHOICE to make but what to name the child, right? I just get so tired of those labeled “Pro Life” acting as if they’re on a moral pedistal over those who openly recognize and respect a women’s position to choose. I am pro choice, however, I will teach my three daughters to always choose life. I PREACH abstinence while also TEACHing birth control. I liken it to shooting for the moon, at least you’ll end up amongst the stars. The notion of saving yourself for that someone special that God is preparing for you is beatiful, but I’ll be satisfied if I can graduate three virgins. A quick side bar, in reference to Michelle Obama’s comment about being really proud for the first time, I’m still curious as to what events have made other people so proud of this country “in their lifetime.” No one has been able to answer that question for me yet?

  • Dee

    I agree with you on most of what you have said. However, I think that Bristol’s pregnancy IS a private family matter. It has no reflection on how Sarah Palin will do her job as a VP. Most children do not live their lives the way that their parents did. Many wind up changing their religion and political views, etc after they get out on their own. So, I don’t really see how you can say that this effects Sarah for the lack of judgement of her daughter. Sarah is still not wavering on her abstenence beliefs and I praise her for that. If you don’t agree, then don’t VOTE for her. Obliviously, her daughter felt differently and she will have to live with her choices. I think that we, as human-beings, need to draw a line somewhere as to what is considered fair game when digging up political “dirt” on each other. I thought Obama/Biden was right…”Families are off-limits” and they should be. Let’s not allow the sacrifice of a 17yr old child…in order to have a Democratic President or to push forward our own views regarding pregnancy. We can educate without humiliating others. Thanks for letting me vent and keep writing…I like what you have to say (usually). LOL

  • Cocomo

    I think your blog is right on. However, the reason this is such a big deal is because for some many years the Republicans condemned everyone as if their poop doesn’t stink. Now these family value issues are hitting home. I truly feel like Sarah Palin should have declined the offer to be VP taking time to devote to family first. Knowing that the spot light would be magnified on this is a disservice to her daughter. Raising an infant let alone one with special needs and having other children her plate is full. You never know her daughter’s pregnancy may have been a cry for attention with a mom always on the go. As we persue our careers we must stop, be sure home is in order and then move forward. The one feel sorry for is the Bristol’s baby’s father. This young’s reputation will forever be the guy that got Bristol Palin pregnant. No matter what he chooses to do in life, this will forever stay with him. Sarah Palin has alot of baggage to have been in Politics a short time

  • Barbara

    I am a mother of three 28, 26, and 17; and I worked as a classroom teacher for thirty years. It was very hard to maneuver work schedule with family schedule. My concern about Sarah Palin is: The amount of time Sarah Palin will have with her baby will be very limited. It’s true she has a husband and other family members who can assist her but, I used every minute as possible with my children during after- school hours. I was able to do homework with them. I took them to dance, drum lesson, girl scouts on every occassion. These are some things our children expect from us. She should know because she was a member of their PTA. I heard it from my students all the time. “My Momma couldn’t come.” I had a husband who helped me too; but, our children want Mother. It’s something about raising children that mothers can do that is different from daddy. Children want to see Mother at homework time, playtime, bathtime, dinnertime and yes, bedtime.

    Will Sarah be have the time to spend with a new baby, or, will Dad and children act as stand ins? I feel sorry for the baby. This (Down Syndrome) baby is going to need as much of Mother’s time as possible. Her other children will be clammering for her time. Maybe this is the problem her daughter Bristol is experiencing. Who knows.

    I do know that I feel badly for Sarah because this VP selection must be a big deal to her. But she should have turned it down. If she’s so great, her time will come again. I do not want her as a representative of womanhood for my daughters. I don’t want her family to be a representation of what the American family’s life is all about. Babies are gifts from God and God looks at pre-marital sex as a sin. We can all be forgiven Bristol can be forgiven. But only a few want to recognize what she has done as sinful. That’s the problem I have with this whole story. How long have we been fighting against having Pre-marital sex?

    Teaching all day and parenting all night was a tremendous task. I can’t imagine running a country, a country at war, right after having a new baby. You know, some women go throuh deep depression after childbirth too. Some elderly mothers would say, “Girl, your body hasn’t even healed yet.” It’s true. Not a good representation for a real woman.

    Frankly speaking, I believe Sarah Palin is being used by the Republican party and will be dumped sooner than later.

  • Carol El

    I agree with you totally-What I would like to ask you is why did obama, with a small o, disrespect his wife and children by kissing the wife of his running mate twice on the mouth after his speech? I am so disappointed. If haunts me everyday-Why? I just would like to know if you know. Every woman of color was dished when he did that and he had the nerve to do it twice.

  • Andre Lotscher

    How come when your cameras pan around the crowd all I see is older white people. I only saw one black person durning the service tribute and Laura Bush’s intro. How can they claim to represent all Americans. It is quite a contrast to the Dems. Oh yeah I forgot these are as GW said the elite. FYI 56 year old white male 6 yrs US Navy Honorable discharge

  • Heidi Gall

    ROLAND!!! I just watched your opinion on McCain pulling from the CNN interview. I watched all of the interviews you referenced and can tell you as a moderate Alaskan republican women I agree with your analysis completely! I love Palin but to question her experience is a valid case that needs to be discussed, when women call someone sexist for asking that question I’m extremely sadden by the ignorance of my party. Then for McCain to pull out of an interview makes me embarrased. Roland thank you for calling the McCain’s campaign for their hypocracy and childish behavior. I get more and more ashamed of my party in the last few months and will not be voting for McCain even though I love Palin this year.

  • http://www.nuvisionforanuday.blogspot.com Angie B.

    I whole heartedly agree.
    I don’t know why it is so difficult for responsible adults, whether die-hard Christians or otherwise, to see that a comprehensive sex education program in the public schools (high school and college) is much more logical and really the safest approach we can take towards preventing some of the tragedies that can sometimes accompany mindless sex.
    And I also agree that we cannot ignore the larger issue here to somehow protect Palin’s daughter from being on center stage. The issue of HIV, unplanned/unprepared pregnancies, and other sexually transmitted diseases, such as HPV and so on, must be addressed. This is the perfect time to deal with these issues.

  • http://www.nuvisionforanuday.blogspot.com Angie B.

    BTW: Roland, I love the way you stood up for what you believe last night on CNN. Thank you so much for calling JM’s campaign out for being a crybaby regarding the interview with Brown.

  • Sandra

    I am confused. It seems to me the McCain camp want it both ways. They don’t want the daughter talked about, but yet they will have her and her boyfriend at the convention which will only create moe talk. Granted this is her mother’s moment in history and she should be there, but why drag teh boyfriend in it, or why not have them in the back away from the cameras. Knowing this will be on everyone’s lips tomorrow. Also, I don’t think for one moment they were going to say anything about the daughter’s pregnancy. If you look when McCain first announced her Bristol used her baby brother and his blanket as a shield to hide her stomach, and as they were leaving the stage her dad had the baby but she was still holding the blanket to cover up her stomach. If they are ok with the situation why did they not mention it? Not that it’s our business, but if they wanted it to remain private, why didn’t they allow her to stay out of the spotlight as did the older brother? It’s like she (Pailin) is using her kids or allowing them to be used for political gain. She’s on the front of magazines with her baby. McCain is all of a sudden commentin gon how much her little girl is such a princess. If kids are off limit why keep putting them out there. Is this the kind of pilitcian we want. To me it’s like McCain found someone with kids to compete with Obama’s kids. I firmly believe that. Why haven’t we seen his kids out there.

  • Vik’Esha Jackson

    I strongly agree with you Roland. Sarah Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is a fair topic of conversation. I’m baffled by how conservatives were quick to inform us about Palin’s child born with Down Syndrome. Republicans boasted the fact that Palin chose to keep her unborn child even though she knew he would be born with Down Syndrome. They expected us to sympathize with her and the fact that she is a hard-working mother taking care of five children including one with special needs. Conservatives also wanted us to judge Sarah Palin, unknown to the rest of us, based on the moral decision to keep her child. Roland, my question is, why is it politically correct for us to form an opinion about Sarah Palin based on a decision to keep a child who at the time was unborn, and incorrect for us to judge her based on her experience as a parent for the past seventeen years? Republicans opened the door to the discussions about Sarah Palin’s children when they tried to capitalize on the fact that she has a child born with Down Syndrome, but now say it’s unfair to talk about another who makes mommy dearest not look so good. Obama has never used his children as pawns for sympathy. For this reason alone, they are not hot topics up for debate.

  • Bosqcatl

    Was This Women Vetted At All!!!

    Thi sthe type of thing that sets women back decades.

    New photo of Sarah Palin with a skirt so short that it
    barely covers her privates, and wearing hooker platform spike heel
    shoes with her toes hanging over like a Strip Club Worker!

    Sarah Palin is a Disgusting Symbol for Women! It gets worse everyday!

    Look!!! If you don’t want sexism to run rampant, then don’t present yourself a tramp and sex object!!!

    I do not want my daughter looking up to this trampy woman!!!!

    LOOK HERE TO SEE THE PHOTO WEBSITE!!!!

    http://onemansblog.com/2008/08/30/hot-photos-of-sarah-palin-the-republican-vice-presidential-candidate/

  • Amy Hall

    To say that the Bristol Palin and her boyfrien should not be attending to RNC is ridiculous, even if asked that the children be left alone. Barack wants his children off limits, also. Were they not on the stage at the DNC. So, because they are present all of a suddent they’re fair game? NO. Does the media everyday address the issues of Bidens’ plagiarism, how about Bidens son and MBNA? How about Mr. Obama’s contacts with William Ayers and the great judgement of the hateful/racist Rev. Wright. No, we don’t see that pounded in our faces everyday. Just a 17 year old pregnant girl. Are they celebrating the pregnancy? Probably not. But at least they decided to own up to their irresponsibility.

  • Joe

    Holy crap – Roland goes apoplectic every time the subject of Sarah Palin comes up. What’s up with that?

  • Anna

    Roland,

    I agree with your position — teen pregnancy is not a red or blue issue, it’s an American issue. The McCain team left themselves wide open on this issue; they intentionlly elected not to disclose this information and like fools thought hurricane coverage would drown this topic out — please! The McCain team continues to insult the American people by coining, “she’s decided to keep the baby” to down-play Sarah’s conservative position for others, but not her daughter. Do they know how many young ladies decide to keep their babies despite all odds with no family support? His VP Selection is against sex education and pre-marital sex — it is a fair playing field for us voters to say, “practice what you preach.” The media coverage on this topic is not an attack on the daughter, but a justifable attack on Sarah Palin for subjecting herself and family (a child with special needs and a pregnant daughter) to an intense political climate that she knows little about… What’s more sickening is that when attacks where made on Barak’s faith and family — both private issues, the McCain team continued to pound…”voters don’t know him or what he stands for…” Obama’s attacks were deemed “ok;” but its not fair to analyze her life and the way she runs her household? Roland, please be a voice for us voters who like to “play fair.” Now that the shoe is on the other foot — advise the McCain camp to wear the shoe.

  • http://www.bilgemunky.com Bigi T

    Teens are having sex in this new culture that we Americans have created. Religion, government, and parents have failed, but they have been failing for hundreds of years. Shakespeare wrote about the same thing in Romeo and Juliet, but we fail to listen. We need to show children what is important and what they will have to change if they choose this path. I’m a proud of father of one and plan on having more, and they are so much fun, but I have lost a lot of my early 20′s with my choice. I don’t party, don’t drink, and don’t have a lot of money. I wouldn’t change anything that I have done, but I want kids to know this and understand it. There parents tell them, but they don’t listen.
    -Tad

  • Linda Aden

    I wanted to follow-up on a comment you made today on CNN regarding how none of the Religious Right has uttered a syllable of dissent in relation to Bristol Palin’s pregnancy. They all appear happy as clams that a 17 year-old, unwed teenager is ushering yet another new life into the world. My immediate thought was…I wonder what they would say if the situation happened to Senator Obama’s family? What if Senator Obama’s daughters were teenagers now and one became pregnant? One truly needs no particular talent to imagine the answer to that question.

    I have been trying to keep an open mind about both sides of the political spectrum but the hypocrisy I see in the Republicans, not only with regard to the pregnancy, but also in McCain’s refusal to be interviewed last night on Larry King because lil’ Tucker Wucker got his feelers hurt by CNN’s Campbell Brown. Your “feedback” last night on that issue was dead on. Geez…man up, already (or…more accurately…man up your campaign advisors).

  • CD

    Weren’t Bill Clinton’s and John Edwards’ affairs personal family matters, too? How convenient now that the tables are turned… Will the Alaskan Governor’s integrity be challenged as well? If Gov. Palin cannot run her household, how can she help run the United States of America? Why is Gov. Palin’s daughter getting married? Is it because she desires to spend the rest of her life with the baby’s father or because she is pregnant?

  • Tina

    Sarah Palin was introduced to the world last week and have appeared on TV many times. Not once have I seen her hold the 4th month old baby; but have seen her teenage daughter hold him non-stop. Now that Mrs. Palin in running for Vice President will the role of her teenager shift to mother of this child and the other two younger one? With all due respect this position is to demanding for her and will terribly interfere with her family and her family will interfere with the business of running the United States. After all how many sick days or personal leave will she be allowed to take in order to care for a sick child?

  • tyBo

    Naw the pregnacy shouldnt be and Issue … But in this case it should B/c i get sick and tired of Hypocrite republicans and so called Evangelicals.. they talk so much abou tmorals and values and for them to jump down the media throat for covering it…. Shows me when its one of there Own They have there full support… So how can u turn around and call yourselves christians.. If that was Obama daughter The whole elephant crew and So called evangelicals would have obama over a hot stove and tlaking about he has no values or morales its sickens me roland… Double standard in this country….. Bristol made a bad choice so do other kids in this country…that sgood she has a good support team most teens dont have that so they have to get an abortion… Does it make it right No… But i would really wish These so called chirstian people have sympathy for all people instead of one of there own…

  • Noctrnl14u

    I think just because she is a woman that all these questions should not be off limits and now every question that is raised people are going to critisize them and think that all people are sexist look we know nothing about her. She needs to be questioned just as much as they questioned barack about his experience. John mccain questioned barack’s experience but went and picked somebody that has no foreign policy exp. or national exp. Then john mccain says he wont except any pork barrel money and sarah palin has accepted 27 million dollars worth of pork barrel money. Sarah palin also preaches about abstinence when her own daughter that is 17 is pregnant so how is she going to preach that when she cant even keep her own daughter in check and she is already under investigation for abusing her power. Im sorry but in my opinion john mccain picked somebody as a last min decision that he himself knows nothing about. And the funny thing is people will vote (women in particular) for john mccain just because he has a women on the ticket not because they care about the issues

  • john

    Nope, it sure didnt take long for the left wing to drag a teenager into a political fight and to exploit her for their ends. What a pompous jerk, Martin. This is an issue that is obviously above your ‘pay grade’. I do not want you or anyone else to discuss sex education to my children- that is my right as a parent, period. I will discuss sex ed with my children in the manner that I see fit. How dare you judge parents in this manner. This is simply a smoke screen for you to attack conservatism- it is just pathetic that you want to use a teenager to make your point.

  • Kevin Hofner

    Roland,

    Palin’s daughter should be off limits for political purposes but her pregnancy puts Palin’s politics in stark relief.

    I agree that we need to get off the left or right when it comes to teen pregnancy. I find the abstinence-only argument to be disingenuous. It is still sex education, only with a different name and unsatisfactory results – witness Palin’s daughter. If we can’t, or won’t, give our children the information and tools needed to responsibly deal with the inevitable aspects of the human condition, we are shirking our duty as parents. The only way to limit abortion is to help women avoid unwanted pregnancies. That requires education, prevention, and yes, the dinner table talk.

  • http://www.Cynthcllr@yahoo.com Cindy Collier

    Hello Roland, I pray that I get a response from you, but I’m not holding my breath over it. If for no other reason, I guess I’m venting to you, in response to your comments this AM, on the news, when you commented about the Palin”s daughter being pictured with her boyfriend today. Please don”t judge me on my spelling etc. I watch all of the major cable news channels to hear all of the views and slants on this election. I am a young 51 year old Christian white woman and I believe you are a fellow Chritian brother of mine according to God’s holy word and in my heart. I am voting the McCain/Palin ticket, just so you know where I’m coming from. I was taught sex education in 1971 during my “first” experience in “public” high school. I was also taught by my parents and from God’s Word, to wait until marriage for sex. I became pregnant at 17 yrs. old, in the summer after graduating high school. I chose to keep my baby and held onto my tummy everytime someone, including my loving, Christian parents, told me to get an abortion. It was the only time I felt abandoned, in any way, by my parents. I chose to live the last 6 mos. of my pregnancy, in a wonderful “unwed” mother’s home. After my son was born, all was healed in my family stemming from the forgiveness of Jesus. I took my baby son to my church at about 2 mos. old. I took him in a bathroom stall to nurse him. There were 2 other women that came into the stalls on each side of me, not aware that I was in the center one. One woman, who happened to be a friend of my mother’s, said “Can you believe that West-girl (my maiden name), brought her baby to church?! I tried not to let them hear me cry. Thank God , they never knew I was there! I changed churches and life went on because God teaches not to judge anyone and forgives if we are truly sorry. I “get” what the Palin’s are doing by having the daughter with her boyfriend in the public eye, instead of hurting her by trying to hide her for her mistake of not waiting until she was married. I can tell you, first hand how deeply it hurt, when my mom wanted to hide me. In today’s world, hollywood examples of displaying planned, unwed “parents”, being portrayed as “nothing wrong here”, because it’s them. They, similar to Barach, have become false idols to many young and older people. I don’t worship any human being and have taught my children the same.

    “Any” unwed parents, have done an injustice to thier child and to God, but the baby is never a mistake!

    P.S. Please try to have an open mind to other views, or at least, respect that it’s ok to disagree with you. I did’nt want to try to reach you another way other than email due to having seen how you interrupt others views and feelings on tv. Sincerely, Cindy Collier

  • Tony

    I agree with you 100%.. I simply can not understand these two sides can not see this obvious solution.

  • Tiffany Foster

    Roland,
    I echo all that you said in the above-referenced column. Contrary to what many believe, our African-American community has always come to the aid of our children and pulled together in a time of crisis. After hearing from the right wing for countless decades that we are the ones who breed children like roaches and expect to pick up a check each month after we have them, it is almost comical. Not because yet another teenager pregnancy has emerged from the scene, because this is an unresolved issue that we simply should not ignore and continue to brush under the table, especially during one of the worst economic times ever. But the all of a sudden, “she just made a mistake” and “how heroic Palin is for supporting her daughter,” seems hypocritical. What about the teenage daughter who does not have the unconditional love and support of her family? What about the family who is there for their daughter, but simply does not have the resources nor medical coverage to ensure that their daughter and her unborn child are cared for? What about the boyfriend who does not have a job and is nowhere to be found or cares to be found? What about the boyfriend who wants to provide support but he does not have the support or unconditional love of his family? Though it may be embarrassing for Palin and her family, they have the resources to help rescue this young couple and perhaps stage the perfect response to what the conservatives have for years insisted was the very reason that they support the pro-life platform. But, when the teenage mother has to choose between eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or give her child the formula that her baby has been crying for during the past two hours, tell me who has the most courage. You want great stories of courage that make your heart feel all warm and fuzzy inside, I will do you better. We Americans – African-Americans, Whites, Hispanics, all have stories of survivors and families who despite the loss of their jobs, loss of their homes, loss of their income, loss of health, and no health insurance……Chose to do the what we felt was the right thing….Pulled together in a crisis and took care of our grandchildren, nieces, nephews, cousins, and even friends…We provided more than material things and a V.P. ticket….We provided homes so that our children would be well provided for, recognize a familiar face, and know the history behind the blood that flows in their veins despite the actions of their parents. And countless struggling parents, do it without the fanfare of a constituency….So, maybe the moral of this story is that if you are the Pick of the Week, never mind the problem that our teenage children are now facing, alarming high school drop out rates, increase of STDs including HIV among our high school and young adults, increase of unwanted pregnancies or out of wedlock issues that we were always led to believe was just an African-American, Hispanic, and lower class white concern. So, if nothing else comes after McCain’s pandering pick, Americans now know the truth. They know that you are only inexperienced if you are an African-American running for President of the United States and that unwanted pregnancies don’t just occur in the ghettos. Don’t be fooled, what happened to Palin’s daughter is not new to their communities. It has always happened among the “well to do, well regarded, and so called upper class neighborhoods.” But, Today in McCain’s Camp, it is no longer a secret and just a ghetto issue. Where’s the platform? I need for the Big Mommas, Paw Paws, and Aunt Nitas, all over our great country to stand up and be counted. Today, their heroism should no longer go unnoticed by our government. Maybe, the so-called “underclass” and “below our morals society” will get an apology from the Republican Party before they introduce their “more qualified than Obama” V.P. pick tonight. “My Fellow Americans, We are sorry that we looked down on you for all these years, it happens in our communities too…But we have fixed this. Enters the boyfriend and his family along with the Palins. See how wholesome this is. They will get married, so she won’t be a baby’s momma. Yes, our wonderful V.P. nominee, Sarah Palin has the same problems as you..She can relate to your economic and moral struggles…so next time you take your unwed, pregnant daughter to the county clinic, look for Sarah….And vote for Country First, McCain and Palin, the camouflage dream ticket of change….” McCain softly whispers to Sarah, “Don’t you tell anyone, they won’t actually see you and Bristol there because you can actually afford your daughter’s and her unborn baby’s health care, but America will fall for it. That’s why I picked you.”

  • Venus

    Also, what must not be ignored are the circumstances that surround the pregnancy. Listen. I will be the first to tell you that I had my son at 18 years. This is not a moral judgment (ironically like those that Palin and her party makes on others stuanchly every campaign season). This is about whom we are entrusting the (possibly God forbid) the Presidency of the United States should McCain win, and she be his VP. The fact that Palin’s daughter is or was pregnant, is the smaller issue. The larger is the verfied reports from those in her camp and her city that said the did not appear to be pregant. If a person would lie about that, what else would they cover up to save face? How can the party who promotes patriotism, morals, and judgement consistantly judge non-Republicans for not sharing their believes. While at the same time, telling it to stop asking questions about those very same things, when the shoe is on the other foot?

  • Venus

    Also, I am glad the Democratic party is taking the high road on a lot of issues the past couple of days, but I think that it will be a dis-service if we play the “Good Guy” on some serious things that affect all of our civil liberties. Why is Congress not speaking out on the ramped reports of police and federal agencies misconduct towards protestors outside of the RNC & DNC. Why is the Democrat party not being tougher on McCain’s judgment on key missteps he’s made in PUBLIC about the war? We can not afford to take the “Leiberman” Approach, and set by and wait for fairness on the other end of the phone to ring through. Democrat strategist need to be out here combatting every published media peice that depicts McCain as having better judgement and policy. You can open any blog or youtube entry about how Obama is everthing under the Sun. However, you are hard pressed to find direct call from the Democrat party about the hard truth about McCain and his campaign’s inconsistency. If we don’t defend ourselves, we leave those important swings voters to believe what ever they get in the mail, see on FOX News, here at their church, or from McCain’s campaign directly. And that is not good enough for the American people! All Americans. I feel like if those swing voters were more informed, we could clinch this candidacy, w/o it come down to the last vote in Florida like it did in 2000.

  • http://none gary pawlak

    Roland,

    I LOVE You and you are brilliant, and you are right. HOWEVER, you place your own political twist to the story. You are USING the story towards your own political wishes. I do not know all of what you have written in the past on this subject matter, but being black in Chicago, I’m a white boy born and raised in Chicago(1959 mistake), you should know first hand of the serious matter concerning the subject at hand in the black community in Chicago – and has been since BEFORE you were born. Subsequently, you can criticize at will on the subject matter without recourse.

    It’s all political power that you possess in hand. I, personally, laud it. But one can read through you like a slick see-through black veil. You are another powerful Black Man.

    gary pawlak, imperial, mo.

  • cara

    Hallelujah and thank you Roland. As an evangelical, I too think that the problem of teen pregnancy and ‘just say no’ attitude among believers is ignoring the elephant in the room. This is a much needed discussion and reaches far beyond a candidate’s daughter or Jamie Lynn Spears!

    The polarizing dialogue needs to stop and the community of faith needs to step up to the plate and lead that dialogue.

  • John

    If the young man is 18 and Palin’s daughter is 17; and this is just a thought, isn’t that statutory rape or at least the unlawful exploitation of a minor?

  • Gilda S Coleman

    As usual Roland your on the money with this comment!

  • Gilda S Coleman

    As usual Roland your on the money with this comment! From over here give me five!

  • Shannon

    Thank you! You have touched on the most important issue in my mind. I am the proud mother of 6 children that I had starting in my mid 20′s. My husband and I have had very frank conversations with our teenager about sex and safe sex. We want him to abstain, we want him to wait for marriage, but we are realists. As a parent, I believe protecting my child with knowledge is my duty. We have shared our mistakes, to show we understand his emotions and struggles, to demonstrate how lucky we were to not have the complications of pregnancy during our teenage years. Abstinence only education is not protecting our children. My husband and I are arming our children to protect them from themselves when they make a poor decision about sex. Hopefully, the discussions we have had will prevent them from suffering life altering consequences when they engage in sex. Comprehensive sex education is needed because not all parents are willing to have those conversations with their children. Clearly there is a problem. My husband and I are doing all we can to protect our children from pregnancy and STD’s, are you?

  • http://www.apostleprophet.org Apostle/Prophetess Mitchell

    Roland thank you for being a strong voice in the media. Others seem to fear saying what is right without offending people. What disturbs me is the motive behind McCains’s pick. He brought her in to belittle Senator Obama. Notice she is not comparing herself with Biden but with him. McCain couldn’t do it himself so he has brough in a person without experence. They are even going to train her to be president. There are two sets of standards. But I thank God He is above all man’s evil schemes.
    McCain doesn’t care about this woman he will do anything to beat out Senator Obama in this election. As pastors we are praying for him and we are not ashame to admit it, at least I am not. Continue to fight for righteous cause.

    Peace

  • David

    I am absolutely astounded by the hypocrisy of the right-wing. A woman with a political position opposing sex education now shows that “abstinence only” did not work for her family. This is an issue because I don’t want my kids endangered by truth-denying, religion-driven policy. All of a sudden, it is sexist to scrutinize Palin and her background. This is after Obama was raked over hot coals for everything from his choice of church to his votes in the senate. Any mention of race was immediately shouted down. And are we going to fall for the right-wing talking points about her “executive experience”? Does the quality, extent, and depth of this experience matter at all? I hope the press does not allow itself to be bullied into not doing its watchdog duty.

  • Niyesha Daniels

    Hi Roland,
    My name is Niyesha Daniels I am a first time blogger. I agree I attended Dunbar Vocational High School in the City of Chicago in the ninties and sex education was part of our Physical Education Curriculum. So you are right it’s not about politics,Democrats,Republicans or Independents. It’s about our children and what they are taught at home and at school. But with all that being said i am sitting at home watching this Republican Convention no I’m not amused or impressed. They are boring, synical and stupid to believe that We The People of the United States are ignorant enough to vote for a candidate they don’t know anything about. It is ludicrous as I am listening to Sarah Palin throw pot shots at the media and her opponent whom she knows nothing about and appears to be afraid to mention his name like he’s “Mufasah” . I wonder who wrote her speech her voice is nasally, whinny and annoying. How can she speak on the behalf of John McCain when they just met. She didn’t speak on any major issues that affect the American people of today or what her plans are on the behalf the Americans in general. All I heard was small town Alaska and what she has done for Alaska. She did’t even introduce her daughters fiance as apart of her family. Doesn’t sound like a proud grandmother to be if you ask me. I am baffled that they would even try to compare her to Michelle Obama or Hilary Clinton. Her record in mediocre and not even an inch thick. What was her point, America is not a small town but a large ocean thats waiting to devour her up!

    Can anyone answer this for me how is it that you can not speak of her pregnant daughter who is the prime example of teen pregnancy issues in America children are off limits

  • Niyesha Daniels

    Hi Roland, This is Niyesha Daniels again please excuse my grammar i sent my blog by mistake before i could finish or do a spell check. Toward the end of what i was asking about the Children are of limits issue. How is it that you can’t talk about her pregnant daughter, but she can throw her Down Syndrome child on almost every magazine they could find at the store. So they need to make their minds up, it just shows what kind of proud mom and desprate political women she really is. They say she’s tough, strong and compares herself to a pitbull with lipstick. Well even a pitbull is more protective of her young and won’t use her child for sympathy vote to climb the political arena. I think it is disrespectful to all the other parents out there with children who struggle special needs everyday and don’t have her financial stability or support.

  • Teresa

    I absolutely agree. And, the pertinent questions are: 1) What kind of judgment did McCain/Plain exercise when they (for their own political agenda and ambitions) cast this young woman and young man into the national spotlight in the “private” time; 2) Why is a “private family matter” when a conservative Republican has a teen pregnancy issue, but for the rest of us a teen pregnancy issue is a matter for conservative public policy and legislative edict; 3) Are McCain/Palin not glorifying teen pregnancy by putting it so front and center, romantizing it by bring the young man to the stage, having him meeting with McCain at the airport; 4) Is Palin’s life a personification of the failed abstinence only education she wishes to impose on all children.

  • Teresa

    I will say this also – Palin in her speech tonight did not look like someone who could extend a hand across the aisle and work with others to solve our nation’s problems.

  • Talibah Moore

    I, too, think that the pregnancy of Gov. Palin’s daughter is important. Firstly, it calls into question Mrs. Palin’s competence in mothering and governing. Family values questions are raised here. I saw pictures of Bristol Palin which depicted drinking – underage – and “wild” behavior – in bed with a guy.

    I question whether Gov. Palin is spending enough time raising her own family. Being a Christian isn’t enough; we are admonished to be good parents.

    Also, I LOVE the irony in the news that Ms. Palin lost her bid to be Miss Alaska in 1984 to an African -American woman named Maryline Blackburn! Seeing very few Blacks in Alaska, I just enjoyed knowing of her loss. Perhaps that’s a sign of what’s to come in 2008!

  • Tom Smith

    Well that is great to hear. I wish that this kind of opened mind and balanced thinking will dominate the social and political leaders. Obama gives a little of it at times. Maybe it is just too hard to get to the top without walking on eggshells and if that is the case then it points to our society not being ready for freedom and democracy, sad…

  • Mike

    ROLAND MARTIN you are a Barack Hussein Obama WHORE!
    You are a, petty, racist little man.
    When John MCCAIN WINS the election I hope somebody takes the morning paper with MCCAIN’S VICTORY in a LANDSLIDE and shoves it up you’re fat ass!

  • carla

    I disagree with your grade of “A” you gave onn CNN website for, Mrs sarah’s VP acceptance saying it had meat. What kind of meat? I didn’t hear any policy resolutions period, but material for a future hate related reality show. Good delivery but hate always is, and she provided drama for ratings and more importantly air filled pundits, but meat’s a hearty substance. So I’d like an explanation of that phrase meaning “meat.:

    My view:

    I heard and saw, Mrs. Sarah deliver a hate filled, divisive, lying, angry ISSUELESS speech to a Klan rally that were aware they were being televised.

    Before her speech I had looked at the GOP convention these last 2 days. Made me think about my mom’s era with a clearer understanding, and realize I haven’t given enough praise & homage to Martin Luther King Jr. like I should.

    Most offensive to me was the put down of community organizers. The real heros to people struggling in this here, Amerikka. While folk like her positions and higher sell out the whole country to line their pockets.

    Her zingers which were well written by a pure racist in my opinion can’t make up for the lack of policy resolutions not said in her evil words, and I see the media has found their new star.

    So now viewers will be subjected to lavish praise onto an evil mean spirited woman for fear of appearing sexist, and then they’ll make it up to America with examining racial relations with her material as an example as to why the nation is culturally and economically divided.

    She swung like a man, so she better be ready to be hit like a man. I was trying to be open minded to give her a chance. I hated what I saw during her speech and the analysis comments afterwards. All of it was just sickening!

  • http://www.dailykos.com/user/renarf RenaRF

    Just a drive-by comment to thank you for your comments about Ms. Palin’s speech and the necessity she felt to slam community organizers. Billmon (well-known blogger) has a VERY interesting post up on the same thing, but from a different angle – he felt it was highly remarkable that Ms. Palin singled out community organizer specifically, and not any other thing – author, Senator, teacher – that Sen. Obama has done. He felt the “community organizer” jab was tantamount to labeling Sen. Obama as a “poverty pimp” and try to make him Jesse Jackson. It made me wonder, at least, and really develop not a competitive spirit against the Republicans – but a true hatred of them.

    Thanks again for expressing what I was feeling last night.

    RenaRF

    PS – here’s the link to the Billmon post if you’re interested: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/4/02739/39108/335/585475

  • http://www.strategyelm.com Rev. Rodney N. Tolbert, Sr.

    Grace and Peace be unto you,

    I have watched the Republican Convention, I am not surprise of what I heard nor seen. It is still the same ole speach we have been hearing for the past 8 years.

    Speech – gay right, abortion, abstinence and attack, attack, attack! Govenor Palin speech had no substance just attack words, nothing on health care, social security, gasoline/oil – but (drill baby drill).

    She is the wrong person to talk about abstinence, as we can see it did not work in her home. She is the wrong person to talk about moving the country forward, she believe in the Religious Right policy instead of what is best for this country.

    I will be finishing an article on my website regarding The Exegesis of Abortion in the Bible. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

    Finnally, this is true from the heart, African Americans of both parties, need to vote for Barack Obama, we have had enough of Angleo Saxons being incharge of this country. It is time for this country to see what we can do when we are in charge.

    God Bless

    Rev. Rodney N. Tolbert, Sr.
    Texas

  • Mike

    Saw you on the tube last night after the Palin speech. You’re already starting to sound like a bitter old man. I once thought you had something, but just like most of your kind, you can’t take a punch or comprehend a point. You’re at your pinnacle, enjoy it. As for he election it’s over, Obama is done. The Republicans are simply too smart for the Dems. The funny thing is that Obama’s only acommplishment will be that he’ll be the one responsible for putting an end to affirmative action. Jesse Jackson and Andrew Young were right about him. All he’s done is expose the fact that 95% of African Americans (you included) are racists. He’s actually legitimized white racists. Unbelievable.

  • Sally

    This is not and should not be about Bristol and her decision. This opens the conversation about Palin’s record on sex education, teen pregnancy, teen sex, and STD’s. I knew more about sex because of school then my mother of 6 children knew. May parents don’t know how, when or what to say about sex. Because of AIDS we must discuss sex to prevent the spread. I became a single mom at 19. Looking back I wish I had been older before I have my son. I hope that Bristol is not being forced into marriage because of the campaign. May teen marriages do not last.

  • Ivan

    Roland one thing that is being overlooked & I’m sure intentionally is that Bristol is 17 y.o. & the boyfriend is 18 y.o. That is STATUTORY RAPE (even if it is consentual). They are flounting all of this in our face as if this is the way it is suppose to be.

    When you get on the public stage you are held to a higher standard, especially when you are judging others and getting into other people business like Sarah did in trying to get her BROTHER-IN-LAW FIRED.

    Bristol is 17, the boy is 18 & they are still having SEX.

  • Zak Stroud

    Rolan, before i am considered an angry racist Republican, let me assure you that i am an African American male, military veteran and lifelong, until recently, Democrat. I have switched to being an independent because i am sick and tired of the hypocrisy. Last night and this morning i heard you say that you were almost offended with her taking on Barack for being a “community organizer”. But wasn’t it Obama who just the other day belittled HER experience as a mayor. Haven’t we heard that Wasilla is a town of between 6 and 10000 depending who you are listening to. This pot calling the kettle black is pathetic. I can disagree with people without being a hypocrit and i wish so called Journalist could do the same.

  • Yolanda

    This is not about Bristol, but about the choice she and so many other teens make to have pre-marital sex. We should be able to talk to our kids about sex without it being treated like a bad thing. Sex is wonderful because God created it. Why are parents so afraid of talking to their children about it? Do parents really think that by not talking about sex kids won’t find out? WRONG! They find out and sometimes learn the hard way. If the parent would have stepped up to the plate and had the sex talk, then the child might have been spared some heartache. Sex is a Spiritual act and so many people don’t know that. That’s why God intended it to be between a husband and a wife. You are spiritually tied to the person you have sex with that’s why it’s so hard to get over someone you’ve been with. I have three sons 18, 8, and 7. I pray for my kids everyday. I would love for them to wait until they’re married to have sex, but I also realize that in this day and time it’s very difficult. My kids may know more about sex than some adults. They know about the diseases and the consequences of what could happen when they engage. When they ask questions, my husband and I answer them. Roland I agree that abstinence and sex education go hand-in-hand. Sally I truely believe that these kids are being forced to marry to “Save Face”. I also agree that forced teen marriages don’t last.

  • just jpe

    Roland, I have just read your “teenaged sex” column on CNN…the day after Palin hit the most refreshing homerun I have seen or heard in a long, long time. …And, again, you ARE WRONG, and your biases do show through your somewhat sanguine remarks. I have one question for you…..what prompts you to raise an issue like this AT THIS TIME? …..please don’t give me the jazz about not caring about Obama or McCain……it is your whole point, just delivered in a somewhat underhanded methold, isn’t it?

  • Sandy

    You have it exactly right Sally. Gov. Palin is proof that teaching only abstinence doesN’t work. With her smug,sarcastic, smirky speech, she made me very proud to be a Democrat.

  • Adrienne

    Roland,
    I just want to say, that watching this election I have come to a new conclusion. I am a gossip/drama junkie and a news junkie. I realized that this presidential election kills two birds with one stone for me. I am watching both a soap opera and historical news unfold all in one.

  • VALERIE

    ABOUT SARAH PALIN……WHEN IS BEING A MEMBER OF THE PTA QUALIFICATION FOR BEING PRESIDENT,AND BEING A SOCCER MON AND A BEAUTY QUEEN DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU EITHER. THINGS THAT WOULD LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHO SHE IS AS A PERSON,WOULD BE WHERE DID SHE GO TO SCHOOL,DID SHE EVEN GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL,WHERE DID SHE GO TO COLLEGE OR DID SHE EVEN GO TO COLLEGE, AND IF SO, WHERE? DOES SHE HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE IN ANYTHING? WHAT COMMUNITY GROUPS DID SHE BELONG TO,WHAT ABOUT HER COMMUNITY SERVICE RECORD ,OR DOES SHE HAVE ANY. I DON’T THINK WE ARE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE BOYFRIEND OF HER PREGNANT DAUGHTER IS AN OPPERTUNIST AND A GOLD DIGGER,HOW COME HE DIDN’T AGREE TO MARRY HER FIVE MONTHS AGO WHEN SHE GOT PREGNANT,ONLY AFTER HER MOM WAS NOMINATED FOR VP.I SMELL A RAT.BEING THE VP COMES WITH CERTAIN PRIVILEGES AND YOU CAN’T BE A FIRST LADY AND DON’T EVEN KNOW HOW TO BE GRACEFUL AND CLASSY.SHE FIRED THE EXECUTIVE CHEF NOT BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO SAVE MONEY,BUT BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT ACCUSTOMED TO THE FINER THINGS IN LIFE,WHAT IS SHE GOING TO DO WHEN SHE IS EXPECTED TO ENTERTAIN FOREIN DIGNITARIES FROM ABROAD AT THE WHITE HOUSE? IS SHE GIONG TO SEND OUT FOR PIZZA? GIVE ME A BREAK.AND MAYBE SHE SOLD THE PRIVATE JET THAT WAS GIVEN TO HER SO SHE COULD USE THE MONEY TO GET A PASSPORT IN 2007.

  • VALERIE

    THERE IS MORE AIR BETWEEN MCCAIN AND PALIN THAN ALL THE BALOONS IN THE DNC,THE REPUBLICANS ARE A BUNCH OF GREY HAIRED SENILE SENIOR CITIZENS,AND IT DOSEN’T HELP ANY THAT THEY ARE ALL UGLY INSIDE AND OUT.IF THAT IS WHO YOU WANT TO RUN THE COUNTRY WELL GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

  • Mark

    SAlly I agree with you. I think Sex Education and ABstinence should both be taught.

    There is nothing wrong hearing from both sides. But SEx is a beautiful thing. Why have it with someone you don’t love.

    Many in my generation are expereincing the “Hook-Up Culture”. My dad is paralyzed from the waist down because of his spine due to an accident 10 years ago.

    But mom stayed with him not because of sexual intimacy but TRUE LOVE.

    TRUE LOVE IS SELF SACRIFICE. Is it ethically moral if one partner can’t have sex because of physically condition and leave him or her because of it.

    ISn’t sex more than in a relationship?

  • V. GASKIN

    Regardless of how I feel about Bristol’s pregnancy, let’s be very clear to say the unsaid.

    Had the shoe been on the other foot…had it come out that Barack and Michelle Obama had an unwed pregnant teenage daughter – it would be a completely different and EXPLOITED issue.

    The double standards of this election year are so maddening:

    Barack Obama is seen as an elitist for having an Ivy League education (an education that many politicians have). This is the same man who was stranded by his father and raised by his single mother and grandparents. Both Barack and Michelle’s patriotism have been questioned and his experience and judgment have been mocked. Plus, America couldn’t decide if he was a closet Muslim or radical Black Christian.

    While Republicans pick and choose what they view as sexist. Is it not sexist to think that women will change their views on ALL of the issues and vote for John McCain because he chose a woman? Or my favorite – those “Hottest Governor in the Coldest State” buttons…wow, that’s rich! Here is a woman who has slammed Barack Obama -not to mention the American people- repeatedly. But hey, she’s cute and did it with a smile!

    PLEASE?! If Barack Obama did that he’d be diagnosed with angry-Blackman-syndrome. This is a woman who when asked if she would accept the nomination said, “I’m not sure. Someone would have to tell me what a VP does all day for me to decide” but somehow, she is the most qualified person to run the country.

    But again, this is about “POLITICS” not the real issues so there is no need to keep it clean.

  • Candice Hunter

    Iagree with Roland, i am so offended by the evangelical voters all they care about is the fact that this little girl is keeping the baby no sin is greater than the other she was having sex, unprotected ,out of wedlock ,that carries consequence as well as any sin . But then for Palin to parade this boy on national tv as if its ok it is a contradiction of her family value she can accept this pregnancy and support her daughter but until they are legally married don’t help them play house the girl is five months pregnant ,why are they only now getting married ? why diden’t they get married when she first found out she was pregnant? this boy had on his myspace that he did not even want kids! but now that Palin is in the spotlight yah they gotta do the right thing. and they had a field day with Obama and his pastor why not put that little girl on blast? by the way she’s a woman now she can take it, it reflects their family values if it were Obama’s daughter man can you imagine the coverage i don’t feel sorry for her. its time for evangelicals to start showing the fruit of the spirit and stop being self rightious , maybe if Palin was at home more raising her childern paying more attention her daughter would not have looked for that affection outside the home one last thing is that she’s only having that baby because her mom can afford her that financial luxury and give her the help that a lot of young girls in the same position can’t do i am not impressed .

  • Robyn

    Roland Martin,
    I was 18 when i became pregnant with a little girl who is now 19 years of age in her second year of college. I’m not impressed with a parent who doesn’t in 2008 teach her daughter or son black or white how to protect themselves in a world where AIDS is at an all time high everywhere. I have fought like HELL to keep my daughter from becoming a statistic. My daughter has girlfriend who also wanted to go to college with them, but she had a one year old. There is more to life then a baby at a young tender age like 17 it’s just a shame. Sarah Palin this could have cost your daughter her life. The hell with abstinence sit down and talk about it. Please lets not forget he made it plan and simple on his my space page he DID NOT as most boys dont want children. A big mistake that could have been avoided. I would like to know what her plans are next. Are they going to take turns going to college?

  • Kevin

    She wasn’t wise enough to keep her legs close. So now she’s wise enough to know that this is the man she wants to spend the rest of her life with?

  • Ryan Field

    Well, Roland, we finally agree on something. This is the kind of post Barack Obama needs to win this election. I’m worried now with this Sarah Palin because she looks so good to so many people.

  • Neahriah

    Ignorance is not bliss. When did education become something bad? We educate children about subjects that will impact their life. In addition to reading, math, science, etc., sexual health also impacts everyone’s life. I am confused with the logic of Gov. Palin on sex education and her stance of prolife. It seems that the far right want to keep people uneducated and ignorant. Maybe if youth were educated about sexuality and sexual health there would be a discrease in unwanted pregnacies thereby cutting the rates of abortion. I also see a contradiction in the views of the far right in their claims to fight for less governemnt in the lives of Americans. How can you fight for less governement but turn around and use the government to tell Americans that they do not have a choice in issues that affect their personal lives, such as abortion. Choice was given to us from God and the last time I looked I didn’t see halos around the heads of Republicans.

  • Alabama Hope

    I took offense to Mrs. Palin’s and Former Governor Gulliana’s comments about community organizers. I as a woman and a person working in the community as we speak would like for them to apoligize for the rude and selfish comments made. Also, I would like to help them understand the role of community organizer since they are ignorant to the definition and mocked the idea that Senator Obama was just a community organizer. Mrs. Palin, are you familar with the name Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, Dorothy Day, Mary Harris “Mother” Jones, Jane Adams and Minnesota’s own U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone. These are just a few who help make it possible for you to stand on that stage and mock the good of people who have suffered for your properity in the political world. They did things from womens right to vote, espousing non violence and hospitality for the impoverished and downtrodden to civil rights, anti-war, feminist movement, gay rights movement, the underground railway, to labor and housing. Former Mayor, Former Presidential Candidate who do you think helped in New York after 911? So really people do some research before making these speeches. I am just a person working in my community to provide health care for the evacuees of the hurricane. This is what I do and very proud of it.

  • diana

    Roland, when I heard this over the air I was smiling from ear to ear. I said he is so right about this issue and if the shoe was on the other foot, then they would have said there goes another teenager having a baby and on welfare.
    I was talking about this yesterday and was wondering if anyone felt the way I did about this issue? Thank you Roland you nailed it right on the head. Just because they are in politics and they risk the chance of putting it out there especially when they supposed to stand against sex before marriage.
    God bless you Roland.

  • KXB

    Picked up this little interesting fact over at The Economist
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/the_man_who_wasnt_there.cfm

    Number of mentions of George Bush by

    Sarah Palin: 0

    Rudy Giuliani: 0

    Mike Huckabee: 0

    Mitt Romney: 1

    Fred Thompson: 0

    Joe Lieberman: 0

    To wit, Sarah Palin mentioned her kids more than George W. Bush.

  • Lois Gant

    Thank you, Thank you. Well said Roalnd
    Believe me this Conversation would be different if this was a young lady from a low economic community.

    I work with young women and men that are Emacipated Foster Youth they have not had the benefit of parents to discuss any education with. Public education is very vital for these young people.

    Although McCain will not win, this young lady is now in the spotlight, how many of our young ladies, without parental, church and or school interviention will think it is ok to have unprotected sex opening them to unwanted pregnancy STD and even death.

    Keep talking about this issue

  • millie

    I think Obama is trying to be nice on this issue while Biden looks as if he could do a stand up routine while being politically correct at the same time. It’s simple. Ms. Palin is talking out the side of her neck. Her views on family values only apply to others and not her own family. In all honestly and the world needs to be truthful, no matter what family values you have been given, when you are ready to go the distance sometimes you act on the side of wisdom and sometimes you act on the side of hormones.
    In response to Ryan Field’s comments about being worried “she looks so good to so many people” Hell I look good to a lot of people as well but that does not mean I’m exceptionally versed on how to deal with or discuss critical topics at the table with seasoned politicians and heads of state as well as having to deal with Bin Laden’s crazy AZZ. This is not the time for us to tuck our tails and run. Mississippi, we did not run when they brought on the dogs and water hoses and we will NOT run now just because they brought in the girl next door.

  • dagnome

    Roland –

    Thanks for once again providing savvy commentary on issues many are either afraid or have been “discouraged” from discussing. The cynicism displayed by the Republicans and by Gov. Palin herself on this issue is deplorable.
    Sadly, this is the typical “Rove-ian double-speak” that has been the hallmark of GOP campaigns in the last decade. We are NOT fooled.

  • steve perzan

    I do not think that Sarah Palin showed that she is a better Mom then Michelle Obama, nor a better Vice President with a more compelling story then Joe Biden. Michelle Obama speech stressed her love for her husband and children more than did Palin’s. Michelle also stated that the greatest gift that her husband wanted to give to their children was the gift of “being a father” something he did not have– since he was also the child of a teenage mother as Palin’s daughter Bristol’s child will be. Sadly in this country we hold up the gift of motherhood higher than that of fatherhood — maybe that is why we have so many poor fathers. If we held fatherhood up as we do the beauty of motherhood there would not be so much divorce, and out of wedlock children, or abortions. It would go a long way towards re-establishing the family character of our nation. If Sarah Palin is elected I am sure that she would handle both jobs of being mother and vice-president, however I also very much admire Michelle Obama who said she would not let anything come between her and raising her children — not her being a lawyer, or her being a first lady or even her personal ambitions. Michelle may not be a “hockey mom” but she sure is a great lady and mom and would make a wonderful First Lady. Maybe a better First Lady then Sarah Palin would make as the First Woman Vice-President.

  • Eugenia Chargois

    Well Roland I think that Sarah Palin need to be more active in Community Health Programs such as sex education, teen pregnancy, and STD instead of mocking Community Service it seem she needs the help.

  • Evette

    I watched the entire speech, I knew something was very strange, but I could not put my fingers on it. Now I know, she was the prime example of a “Red neck Comedian” the only thing she did not do was call Obama a niger. I am a mother , a proud woman and I love my country. Palin did not represent the true proud and strong women, she was awful.

  • http://www.rolandmartin.com Lisa White

    Roland, I am glad that someone is tackling this issue head on. While the Evangelicals, the Palin family and the Republican Party thinks that this is a great honor, 17-year-old Bristol having unprotected sex in a state that is leading in cases of the STD Chlamydia, and then getting pregnant, I think this speaks to her mother’s ability to manage or her greed for power. She has no clue what is going on in her own household. How comforting is that to the American public. Yes, there is a double standard; she is a woman and a mother first, obviously with a troubled family. She has not assessed her priorities and decided what is important at the end of the day. Then, I may have spoken out of turn because maybe she did assess her priorities and decided that her family, especially her teenage daughter, takes a back seat to her ambition and need for power. Bristol is no different from any other teenage in any town USA who has a dysfunctional family and has to find other means for love or to cope or more importantly the need to rebel to be heard. This is really scary, I shudder to think how Gov. Palin handles interpersonal relationships because her actions and her “story” scream big business and government – little person, get out of my way! Lastly, in my neighborhood, they call the pending nuptials a “shotgun wedding”, not sure what they call it in Alaska, but it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, quite probably it is a duck! While Governor Palin maybe a great administrator to many, she has a lot to learn about humanity. I am looking forward to her speeches, debates and actions that actually address issues that mean something to Americans because her inaugural speech, while peppered with sarcasm and insults, certainly left me asking more questions then applauding her responses.

  • atlanta1

    There are two things I think we should pay close attention to: The first being she does not support sex education, and the second she cut funding for kids with disability before she knew her child would be disabled.

  • http://www.myspace.com/new_covenant_ministry Eld. T

    Lit me preface my comments by saying I am an evangelica minster and have been for 20 years. I agree with what has been said here so far. Normally, this would be a private family matter, but because the Republican party has held itself as the SOLE judge and posessor of “values” and has used these issues to browbeat Democratic candidates for the last 28 years, this issue is larger that the actual subject matter. The fact is once you take ANY issue and make it political, it can, should, and will be used against you as a double edged sword. We all have foibles and skeletons in our closets and should be careful about whom we comdemn. The Lord Jesus summed it up best when he stated, “Judge not least ye be meted w/the same jugment.” I admire Barak Obama for taking a principled stand on the whole matter which further demostrates his diplomacy and grace. I really hope that ths who hullabaloo will open a serious conversation reguarding sex education in our churches, schools and nation. I often tell my young people that abstinance is Gods way, but if you cannot contain, please use a condom. Afterall, dead people cannot accept salvation.

    Eld. T

    Ps. Thanks for representing the ORIGNAL MAN on TV one. ’06!!!!!

  • Megan

    Roland, I challenge you to research the rise in teen pregnancy and STD’s and how it relates to the government taking more and more control of our children’s education. You will find that the more control (so-called “responsibility”) the government has taken and the more it has taken God out of schools and the more these pregnancy and disease statistics have risen, as have statistics for many other undesireable characteristics or issues. The key is not in SEX education, it is in going back to the roots of christian values and in BIBLICAL and MORAL education. The bible teaches abstinance and so should we. I would argue that Governor Palen has it right!!!I would think you would support the abstinence only view, since you are an evangelical. Maybe I have the wrong idea of what an evangelical is . . . one definition I found says this of an evangelical, “relating to or being a Christian church believing in personal conversion and the INERRANCY of the Bible especially the 4 Gospels”. The bible says that we are to be abstinent unless one is married. I would take it a bit further and say that one doesn’t qualify as an evangelical unless you actually stand by the biblical principles that you claim to believe, as Christ commanded. Roland, the way that you berate those with conservative christian views, the rudeness with which you have spoken about those you don’t agree with throughout the last few weeks and your unabashed support of Obama (despite his support of killing our unborn children, even if it were his own grandchild, he says) do not line up with your claim of being an evangelical. I would encourage you, with the oppportunity that you have to be heard by millions of people, to speak in a way becoming of a christian, with respect and self-control and not to advocate teaching millions of our children to act in opposition to God by giving them the go-ahead to have sex outside of marriage as long as it is “safe sex” (“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung aroung his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes.” Matthew 18:6,7) The leaders of our country and people like you, who have such a platform from which to be heard, have a HUGE responsibility not to lead others to stray from what God commands in the bible. They will be held acccountable by God for those they have led astray. As christians, we would do well to remember what Christ said – that we will be known by our fruit. No matter what one claims to believe – actions are what will set one apart, including the way in which we speak to and about others and what we teach others. Not to say that christians don’t make mistakes, of course. I applaud McCain and Palen for sticking to their convictions and not being ashamed of it. They walk the walk and take responsibility if they make mistakes which is more than I can say for a myriad of other politicians and individuals, even those claiming to be christians.

  • jessica lewis

    …double standards…anything to win an election…anything to keep Senator Obama from the White House… r u kidding, any other candidate, any other election, the republicanas would have burned this child at the freakin stake… something smells here and it ain’t the water…. in the beginning Bristol’s campaign appearances were limited to her behind a baby blanket, since the Palins have supposedly come clean with the truth, the baby don’t need no blanket NOW!! and they are so proud… proud of what getting knocked up and 17 before finishing high school… I wonder how long it will be before the other two Palin girls gets knocked up since Bristol has received so much attention…. but McInsane machine did something very dangerous, they challenged and taunted the press… all of the press, and one should only do that when they are absolutely sure there is nothing to hide… and like I said earlier, something smells here and it aint the water…. smells like similac!!

  • Margaret

    Maybe Ms. Paline needs to stay home with her kids. She preaces abstinence, but yet her 17 year old is pregnant. Some women focus more on rising in their career than they do their kids. I know where mine are at all times, and I hold them accountable. I know how I was at a young age, because my mom didn’t keep tabs on me.

    McCain only picked her to woo over Clinton female voters, and I sure hope that they aren’t that naive to vote for her because she’s a female. Everyone’s looking at personality, etc., wherein they need to look at the issues and vote their convictions.

    This race is really getting silly, with the back and forth jabs, etc. Let’s focus on the issues as that’s what’ll win a race, I hope, in America and not the personalities, who can critize the most, etc.

  • Zekedahouse

    Roland, my thing is if everyone including Barack is going to take the high road, gentleman/person, dignified approach of the daughter being off limits, I am ok with that. The greater thing is that Gov. Palin insists as a matter of policy that abstinence is the method of sex education she touts for America and as you noted in her own home. Well, we are in a political race to the white house. She opened up a can of whoop ass in her acceptance speech comments, so lets go. As a matter of policy she can be aggressively questioned not only on that, but on pork barrel spending, earmarks, banning books, trooper gate, etc. I think a “proper” vetting done by the press (yes the press) is and should be on. Lets go!

  • Grace RN NJ

    Palin is fortunate that her daughter didn’t come to her to tell her she had HIV, herpes or a STD that had ravaged her reproductive system. In this day and age, merely being pregnant from unprotected sex is alot like dodging a bullet.

    I was 19, unwed and pregnant when my ‘pro-life’ mother threw me out on the street with only the clothes on my back. Being prolife means you can’t be anti-pregnancy-to truly ‘walk the talk’ one has to make sure these women have access to health care, education, nutrition, affordable housing and childcare. This year alone Palin reduced the funding to Covenant House Alaska, an organization that among other things, provides transitional housing for teenage mothers, by 20%.

    If anything, I see more radicalism in Palin that in McCain-and that scares the hell out of me.

  • gladiwaited

    When my mother found out I was sexually active (at age 15), she did something that I can now look back on and be extremely proud (of her). She hauled my butt down to her gynocologist and put me on the pill. This was back in the days before AIDS/HIV, and when there was truth and some kind of openness in sex education in school.
    Her words to me were, I don’t approve of your sexual behavior, and unfortunately I can’t stop you, but at least I can do what I can to protect you.
    Luckily, I never contracted any diseases, and over time I learned more about “safe sex”, mostly because of mandatory health classes at school, and talking to my mom. I was one of the lucky ones who had a parent who wasn’t afraid of the subject.
    Teaching abstinence is nice and all, but if you tell a kid no, and you don’t tell them why you are saying no, and explaining the details of the consequences of their actions, or what they can do to avoid the problem, then your demand to them is meaningless.
    I watched so many of my friends have children so early in their lives.I’ve made alot of mistakes in my lifetime, but I waited to have children. I saw what a responsibility it was, and I knew I wasn’t ready.
    But these teens today are clueless. They have no idea, because nobody will be candid with them. Its hurting everyone, and the worse it gets, the more babies we’re going to find abandoned, neglected, abused, or worse.
    This subject must be discussed on all levels, all options on the table for these young adults. They need to know what they’re up against.

  • J McDonald

    Roland,
    As a Health Education teacher, I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. Statistics prove overwhelmingly that Abstinence-only education is ineffective in ALL schools, public and private, inner-city, rural and suburban. The latest statistic I saw showed just under 51% of our children are or have been sexually active (slightly higher than the figure you gave – not to say which is correct).

    Comprehensive HE is vital. In most states, children are given a lecture on puberty at the 4th or 5th grade level and then will only have 3 semester of HE after that (one in 7th, 8th and 9th grade). That’s simply not enough. What’s more, many districts will not allow teachers to give Preventitive Sex Ed. lessons, which is shameful. As you stated, children need Comprehensive Sex/Health Education starting at 10 years old and continuing on through their senior year in high school (in my opinion). Yes, parents need to step up and yes, they are the primary example for children on this front. However, given the means, Health Educators can teach children that Abstinence is the VERY BEST solution, however; for those that are going to cross the line, there are preventative measures we can teach.

    Keep doing what you’re doing Roland. You’re the man!

  • TruthIsGood

    Roland,

    As one of the few sane voices amid chaos who does not allow the Republican Spin machine to churn without impunity or caution…Thank You for Keeping them Honest.

    The Republicans parade Sarah Palin around as this Maverick Reformer CEO with vast Executive experience. OK let’s stipulate that she may be the ONLY Candidate in the Presidential/Vice Presidential race who has Executive level experience as a Governor or Mayor.

    However, it is also TRUE that John McCain does NOT have Executive experience. So WHY does no one say to the Spin Doctors since John McCain does not have Executive experience is Sarah Palin replacing him on their ticket as the ONLY Qualified Candidate to be President? Fair Question.

    I also find it interesting that most of your colleagues promote the notion that one (Joe Biden / The Obama Campaign) must walk softly and dare not attack Sarah Palin because she is a Woman. The Same Sarah Palin who described herslf as a “Pit Bull with Lipstick”.

    The Double Standard is astounding. She is Tough and Accomplished but be Gentle. She can Attack with a Smile but you be Nice.

    Hillary Clinton once said and it is true “If You Cannot Stand the Heat – Get Out Of the Kitchen”.

    My sincere hope is that the media and the Obama Campaign will hold Sarah Palin, John McCain and the Republican Party accountable for Speaking the Truth and Giving the American Public Honest information upon which to make an informed decision.

    The same is true of the Obama campaign but the media is for the most part delighted to challenge everything and anything positive about Barack Obama.

    Keep Us All Honest. Proof Positive.

    Thanks!

  • Charles

    Mr. Martin,

    Today I heard John McCain saying that he wanted to take Republican Party and America back to the days of Lincoln, back to the way it used to be. I hope this is not the President that we elect to lead our country. As a black man, I surely don’t want my kids to have to experience the hatred my forefathers had to endure.

    Yesterday I heard Mitt Romney during the RNC say there was not a moment since he was born that he has not been proud of America. Was he proud when white men dragged a black man down the street of Texas for miles from the back of a truck. Was he proud when white people beat black people who were peacefully marching for equal rights. Was he proud when they hung innocent black men from trees. Was he proud when New York Police Office raped the black man with a stick. Not only him, but all of the Republican who stood up and applauded him when he said that. The Republican Party has not changed and never will.

    The Republican road to the White has has change, but the objective is still the same! Supremecy of a race.

  • Melanie Jones

    Hey Roland,
    What you said needs to be heard by a lot of people,mostly the ones at the Republican N. C. They have put Gov. Palin up on a pedestal that she does not deserve. I really think she was put on the McCain ticket because he can’t beat Obama with just two old white men. Look at the crowd, it is almost a total sea of white people. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m white, I am a woman, Hillary Clinton supporter and now a proud supporter of Sen. Obama. His crowd of people was what America really looks like. Obama and Biden do get it, they will turn this country around for everyone, not just the rich. The fact the the Republicans think Palin will help just because she is a woman is so stupid it makes me want to scream. As a woman myself, mother, Grandmother and Pro-Choice, the last person I would want as a Vice-president or President is someone who wants to take away my rights to my own body. To me that is where Women’s Rights start. No way, no how, no Palin/McCain!! GO Democrat’s !
    Thank you for your time,
    Melanie

  • AMY GRAHAM

    Roland, I just finished looking at that joke show called RNC, and honestly, I think that was the saddest event I have ever witnessed, Sarah Palin. Sarah doesn’t know it right now, but she is being used. John McCain and the Republican Mob have no intention whatsoever on giving that Soccer Mom who calls herself a DOG “Pitbull” the secret code to anything but the doorway that leads to the road back to Alaska, when and if they get to the White House, which I strongly doubt. I can’t imagine this Country is going to put that woman on any Air Force 1 or American Government plane going anywhere to hold a conversation with any President, Prime Minister or King in the world, saying she represents America. This is so embarrasing. I bet she can’t even speak Spanish. This crap is so funny, I can’t even be mad. It is just too funny. The Beverly Hillbillies. I love it. This country has fallen from its pedestal. We look stupid. Go Obama-Biden, and hurry up.

  • Pat Mejia

    Roland, you are one weird dude! You want a Barak to win soooo bad, you would even sacrifice his opponents children on an alter to feel victorious! You better check that spirit that is driving your ambition, because it sure “aint” from God…at least not the one that is called “The Great I AM.”

    You are a deluded, deceiving racist! You done sold your soul to the company store!

  • Pat Mejia

    Give me a break! Are you people for real? Teenage pregnancy is not a current phenomena! It has been happening for generations, and will continue to increase with the help of the Holly-wierd crowd and the base Rap Artists, who by the way support Obama, and demoralize women in every way! Quit acting so self-righteous!

  • Jason

    Roland,

    The point that a lot of people are making is that Palin made this an issue when she brought her daughters situation to the public. In her own words she told us that this was her daughters decision to keep the baby. As if her daughter would have had the right to not have the baby? The irony of that is the fact that Palin is a staunch pro lifer and apparently it is ok for her daughter to make this decision yet if Palin gets to the white house, she is going to take that decision away from the rest of women in America.

    The hypocrisy behind that simply demands attention. On top of that, Palin does not want to support sex education but and abstinence only funding. Interesting how abstinence only did not even work in her own household.

    I have a one and a half year old daughter and the thought of dealing with this when she becomes a teenager does freak me out a bit. I would tend to agree that a little of both sex ed and abstinence, at the very least, can not hurt.

  • Lawrence

    Roland – I noticed you gave McCain a D for his convention speech. Most objective journalist gave him somewhere around a B. I don’t even have to guess that you gave Obama nothing lower than an A+. Just said that you can’t look past race on any issue. I am actually an Obama supporter but I can’t fathom how many blacks support this candidate just because of his skin color. Nearly every black american I have talked with about supporting Obama couldn’t tell me any of his positions – other than “change” and “hope”…oh yea “history”. Your ignorant comments, articles and discussions will only hurt Obama. After his term I hope people don’t see him as a “Ok President…for a black man”.
    In future articles, try and be more objective, listen to issues and just be fair. Racism goes both ways and its said to see a person that writes for so many being such a bigot.

    Sincerely,

    Lawrence

  • Jim Pleasant

    Yeah this is off limits. Was wondering what she will use as a theme song now….seems Heart is quite upset with her and McSame for using “Barracuda” at the convention.
    Seems awhile back John Mellancamp had the same problem with McSame.
    Why do these people want to distance themselves from McSame and company? Ha hah hah hah!
    Will be soooo glad when McSame is out of the equation….and America can try to repair all the damage done to it by idiots like him…Bush…Rove…Cheney and a host of other dumb people.
    I am so sick of hearing why McCain who’s wife is worth over 100 million dollars has anything in common for the well being of someone struggling to get by. This is a JOKE! He has no interest in poor people at all…..the term Elitist sure looks like it fits him.

  • If John McCanin were Black

    It’s apparent that if John McCanin were black or high yellow…your views would be different. Your simply just too single-minded.

  • Charlene

    I don’t see a story about last nights Rep Convention, but please check this out. Gov Palin and Rudy Giuliani said that Senator Obama never passed a bill or any legislative work-Nada! Remeber that fiasco. Well last night Senator McCain made this statement: We lost their trust when instead of freeing ourselves from a dangerous dependence on foreign oil, both parties and Senator Obama passed another corporate welfare bill for oil companies. We lost their trust, when we valued our power over our principles. Well now, doesn’t Senator McCain contradict what Gov Palin and Giuliani said? Mr. Martin has anyone on your CNN team picked that up? I haven’t heard anyone mention that- it needs to be noted.

  • PAT

    AS A BLACK MAN….HOPEFULLY EDUCATED……YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT OVER 60% OF BLACK
    WOMEN IN AMERICA HAVE “NO HUSBANDS” AND LIVE ON WELFARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

    WHY IS THIS? SHOULD WE PARADE YOUR PEOPLE AROUND LIKE CATTLE AND ASK THEM “WHY” THEY KEEP GETTING PREGNANT?

    THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THIS YOUNG WOMAN.

  • mike cooney

    You Dumborats just got your asses kicked by a beautifull lady.Too bad Candy Crowley,Andrea Mitchell,and all the other hideous skunks cannot rise above their jealous/hypocritical /biased far leftist idealogy! If Dim-o-rats want to do what they have done to Detroit,Cleveland,Toledo,and etc.for all of America,we should ALL be ready to say NO WAY! America has been poisoned by Demonrats ,and their tax and waste madness!

  • MARGARET

    Just because McCain has put a female on his ticket, I hope that he doesn’t think that women are dumb enough to turn into Stepford wives to vote for them.

    DON’T INSULT OUR INTELLEGENCE MCCAIN!!!

  • Jim

    Roland,

    Could you please forward me the imporant legislation that Senator Obama has passed in the last 3 1/2 years, especially that legislatiion when he reached across the aisle. I guess Sen Obama must be saving that for the Presidency? That Gov Palins daughter is pregnant…you draw conclusions about her? What conclusion should I draw about Sen Obamas admitted drug use? Oh…nevermind he was young and dumb….perhaps like Gov. Palins daughter. Sen McCaine is a Washington insider…and Sen Biden is not? White- Americans that voted in West Virginia and Kentucky are racist, but 90% of Black-Americans that vote for Sen Obama are not? A vote shouldn’t be cast to “make history”, nor will I cast my vote based on Susan Sarandon, or Sean Penn.

  • Jamie Mills

    I think that you are a big, fat, racist. why don’t you question Obama’s membership in one the most racist churches in America? Why Obama is a coward who will not debate McCain? Why he voted present in just about all of his senate votes? No one listens to you, except other racists.

    Jamie
    Atlanta, Ga.

  • Marvin Dickerson

    Roland,

    I find it interesting that we have not heard a peep from any of the major news outlets about the Utube video of the African American male who claims to be the father of Sarah Palin’s daughter’s baby. Also, it appears that the McCain campaign or Sarah Palin has been trying to keep this information under wraps! Watch it and decide for yourself.

    http://utube.smashits.com/video/VELIG92GDXw/Father-of-Bristol-Palin-s-baby-speaks.html

  • touch

    make babies.. that what life is… we are the one’s who turned it into commercial adventure..

    god probably would not have equipped people to make babies, if he thought it was something they were not capable of doing…
    we are the one’s who try to assume people have play time, after puberty.. we set this game of, play time in world up…

    man set these age games up… to suit his commercial pursuit… Nature don’t regard that, man does… because we have been groomed into the Henry Ford, build workers mindset, and not make families..
    what we have is a society that has generation gaps, and people too old to have babies producing babies when they know down syndrome comes, when their hormonal make up has changed… and they are so busy chasing ” employment criteria” they forget that.. life is about people..

    people talk about family.. but despise the growth within what is a family… mankind choose to make money his god, and industry his church.. and material things his measure…

    we seek opulence, not basic living standards.. we all want to be executive, rather than people who produce what is needed to sustain life… that’s why our land fills are full and the earth is now toxic…

    because all we know.. is .. Let’s go buy something, or rejecting other’s because they can’t go buy something… character is now based on how much money you have, and integrity is connected to who’s got the latest gadget… and we have become a people.. who despise people who care about having babies… so much so.. that we make it tabooo.. to have a baby.. unless first they fit the model to be part of the Henry Ford program… build people for the machinery of Industry…. and we get what we get… a screwed up society.. that respects nothing that money is not the measure.

  • touch

    Now about the politicians and the agenda… because the agenda is not about this girl having a baby..

    Well the nation is faced with a choice…

    We can choose the history of individual or we can wait for the details of their plans to be presented to us..

    the bio’s of each person over the past two weeks have been interesting, and each of them are great people.. with wonderful Life stories.. and for us.. that’s great… we know that people who have come thru things are what all the Candidates chronology shows..

    but that being good and great makes for wonderful story telling..

    but after the story is said and done.. the Gas price is till high, the mortgage companies are still functioning as if they are stuck on stupid… we are still fighting a war we never should have been in.. and there is nothing to win, in the war, because Iraq is it’s own country.. so what are we trying to win.. we certainly won’t get to colonize them, we won’t get to control their oil, and we won’t get to dictate their government, nor will we get to set up military bases all across their country.. they will not convert nor be converted to Christianity, and when they get tired of blowing up each other they will stop on their own.. Saddam is gone, and there are no WMD… so what is there to win.. what is the obsession about winning based up.. and what is supposed to be gained with a concept of win… will it mean the US controls Iraq, does it mean US claims the Oil… does it mean the US can have military control over them ..does it mean they submit to American Government Policy and follow the Laws of the American Courts.. ??

    they have a system designed to function under Muslim Law.. which is different from Christian system… so what exactly is the obsession of winning based upon.. and what is it’s objective..

    Was it not already disclosed, that lies and mis representations is what created the war… was it not shown that documents were ignored that led up to the war… and still many are dead, and more being sent to die… and for what ??
    The Iraq new Government, has already said… “Go Home” … the Saudi have said.. Nope, we are not helping your situation with oil.. maybe if we stop burning up oil, flying over Iraq and spending 10 billion a month, over there, we could find out how to fix our own economy..

    why did Haliburton claim to move their Headquarters to Dubia? did they think they would get control of Iraq oil.. and manage it from Dubai ?? wasn’t Dubai the same country, the US tried to sell the control and management of it’s ports to, until the public found out that the paperwork had been drawn up, sitting there waiting on a signature..

    We don’t see any other Arab Muslim nation, trying to curtail the fighting, if anything they are supporting it, to insure that Iraq does not become and American colony… so what is this obsession of winning.. there is nothing to be own.. unless it’s to claim total occupation and dominance of their country, it’s government and it’s resources.. other than that.. what are we doing there.. ?? We are not in Somilia, Nor are we in Rawanda, nor in Sudan… so it’s certainly not about a humanitarian mission… We don’t even go to help Haiti, which has nearly been blow off the map by Hurricanes.. nor did we go there to address the 1000% inflation they have endured over the past 6 months.. but we are talking about ” winning something in a soverign country, which is it’s own country, and was it’s own country, before we blew it up.. and darn near thrust it into a civil war, that it had taken the leadership of Iraq 50 years or more to have got itself stable enough where the people were not fighting each other..

    We are talking about drilling now, when we’ve knows for 40 years we needed fuel.. but we have built not one refinery to be prepared to process anything they find with their drilling, they can’t keep up the refining capacity of what we use now, and we suffer price spikes every time they do patch work on the existing refineries..

    but we have what.. a leader talking about “fight to help people”… we don’t need fighting to help us.. we need politicians to simply do the job they are paid and elected to do.. and stop sitting around playing “let’s make a deal”..

    right now if it exist in America it’s broken.. from banking to auto making.. from small towns to country villages.. just in the month of august.. there were 84,000 more jobs lost… but not one thing has been put in legislation, to tell the mortgage companies to drop, fix and freeze interest rates… nothing has been push to mandate they curtail their lending practices and non working with land owners .. Nothing has been put across to put a cap of CEO salary and putting pressure on Wall Street to stop the rip and strip gouging… it’s business as usual.. mad men and fools… stomping about, deluding people.. and talking about winning something that is not anything that require winning…. because it’s not ours’ nor will it ever be ours,.. it belongs to the Iraq people… and maybe if we get out of their way.. they can get their lives stable.. but that’s kind of hard to do, when US generals, are telling them what they can and what they can’t do.. and patrolling their neighborhoods as foot soldiers… the mere presence invoke the havoc to continue.. we are the problem that we claim we are trying to fix a problem when our mere presence is the root of the problem existance…

    if some military occupation was here in this country doing what we are doing there.. citizen would be hiding and blowing up stuff, and fighting back, so why do we expect the Iraq people, to just quietly sit in their homes and let the US stomp through their city, detaining, arresting, killing and blowing up what ever they feel they want to blow up this week, just continue doing it… and then complaining because the people are fighting back. They are not people any longer oppressed under a dictator..but they have not been allowed to embrace their new government, because they are continually being dictated to, and not allowed to go out and figure out how to make their new system work… and we are still with people.. talking about.. the US has to win…

    what a madness of a paradox…

    when we finally got the hell out of Vietnam.. they went thru their changes.. but they have rebuilt themselves and now today.. they are a nation gaining power as being an up and coming economic power all on their own.. but until America accepts that it will not colonize and nor dominate, nor will it get control of Iraq oil, nor will it dictate their government..,. if we get that point firmly understood… then we’d pack up and get out of there.. and take care of the mess that exist here…

    hell this country is still got major problems just trying to get various ethnicities to respect each other.. that’s what it should be working on…the disparity in the inequities that are wide spread across this country… as if it’s two different countries.. just going from ethnic neighborhood to the next.. in some place it’s like you’ve left one country and entered another.. that is two generations behind.. and imbalanced in the economic opportunity.. as if we have just exited slavery a week ago.. that’s what this nation need to put it’s attention unto… not trying to take over and colonize a soverign country 8k or more miles away..

  • Denise, Nebraska

    Good points Roland, except you forgot one thing that I thought a man of faith would be happy to point out. She choose to have the baby, not take the selfish way out and have an abortion. A teenager having unprotected sex is obviously an incredible mistake. But instead of constantly making this girl an example of “see what happens when you don’t use a condemn” add “she does have a deep respect for life.” Trust me, this all bothers me as much as anyone else, I have a 14 year old daughter. It creeped her out, but she knows exactly where babies come from and the only 100% full proof form of birth control is abstinence. But if she decides to do something contrary to everything she’s been taught, she also knows about other methods. And yes, I am pro-life. And I am from a small town. And yes, I am proud of my country, good or bad. God Bless John McCain and Barack Obama for having the guts to go through a presidential campaign during difficult times and take on a country deeply divided. And, oh yeah….GO HUSKERS!

  • Denise, Nebraska

    Ooops, spelling error – condom is not spelled condemn. Brain fart? C’mon its Friday.

  • Tiffany

    I actually responded to Mr. Martin’s article a couple of days ago. I am going to try to post it again. Roland,
    I echo all that you said in the above-referenced column. Contrary to what many believe, our African-American, Hispanic, and lower middle class White communities have always come to the aid of our children and pulled together in a time of crisis. After hearing from the right wing for countless decades that we are the ones who breed children like roaches and expect to pick up a check each month after we have them, it is almost comical. Not because yet another teenager pregnancy has emerged from the scene, because this is an unresolved issue that we simply should not ignore and continue to brush under the table, especially during one of the worst economic times ever. But the all of a sudden, “she just made a mistake” and “how heroic Palin is for supporting her daughter,” seems hypocritical. What about the teenage daughter who does not have the unconditional love and support of her family? What about the family who is there for their daughter, but simply does not have the resources nor medical coverage to ensure that their daughter and her unborn child are cared for? What about the boyfriend who does not have a job and is nowhere to be found or cares to be found? What about the boyfriend who wants to provide support but he does not have the support or unconditional love of his family? Though it may be embarrassing for Palin and her family, they have the resources to help rescue this young couple and perhaps stage the perfect response to what the conservatives have for years insisted was the very reason that they support the pro-life platform. But, when the teenage mother has to choose between eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or give her child the formula that her baby has been crying for during the past two hours, tell me who has the most courage. You want great stories of courage that make your heart feel all warm and fuzzy inside, I will do you better. We Americans – African-Americans, Whites, Hispanics, all have stories of survivors and families who despite the loss of their jobs, loss of their homes, loss of their income, loss of health, and no health insurance……Chose to do the what we felt was the right thing….Pulled together in a crisis and took care of our grandchildren, nieces, nephews, cousins, and even friends…We provided more than material things and a V.P. ticket….We provided homes so that our children would be well provided for, recognize a familiar face, and know the history behind the blood that flows in their veins despite the actions of their parents. And countless struggling parents, do it without the fanfare of a constituency….So, maybe the moral of this story is that if you are the Pick of the Week, never mind the problem that our teenage children are now facing, alarming high school drop out rates, increase of STDs including HIV among our high school and young adults, increase of unwanted pregnancies or out of wedlock issues that we were always led to believe was just an African-American, Hispanic, and lower class white concern. So, if nothing else comes after McCain’s pandering pick, Americans now know the truth. They know that you are only inexperienced if you are an African-American running for President of the United States and that unwanted pregnancies don’t just occur in the ghettos. Don’t be fooled, what happened to Palin’s daughter is not new to their communities. It has always happened among the “well to do, well regarded, and so called upper class neighborhoods.” But, Today in McCain’s Camp, it is no longer a secret and just a ghetto issue. Where’s the platform? I need for the Big Mommas, Paw Paws, and Aunt Nitas, all over our great country to stand up and be counted. Today, their heroism should no longer go unnoticed by our government. Maybe, the so-called “underclass” and “below our morals society” will get an apology from the Republican Party before they introduce their “more qualified than Obama” V.P. pick tonight. “My Fellow Americans, We are sorry that we looked down on you for all these years, it happens in our communities too…But we have fixed this. Enters the boyfriend and his family along with the Palins. See how wholesome this is. They will get married, so she won’t be a baby’s momma. Yes, our wonderful V.P. nominee, Sarah Palin has the same problems as you..She can relate to your economic and moral struggles…so next time you take your unwed, pregnant daughter to the county clinic, look for Sarah….And vote for Country First, McCain and Palin, the camouflage dream ticket of change….” McCain softly whispers to Sarah, “Don’t you tell anyone, they won’t actually see you and Bristol there because you can actually afford your daughter’s and her unborn baby’s health care, but America will fall for it. That’s why I picked you.”

  • Gloria

    Teen pregancy is real. My daughter got pregnant at 14. I had that talk about sex and condoms, but not really thinking at that young age she would go that far. But we all have to realize, put a female in that position of kissing and fondling whether 13 or 40 and the body feels the same. Back in the day we were taught to stop before going all the way. We would have been crucified. But it’s a different generation.

    Children young are not comfortable telling their parents they want to have sex. At 17 with almost a 2 year old, I wish she had come to me. It’s hard for her. I have to be both mom and grandmom. But on the other hand, if she would have said I want to have sex at 14, I would have hit the ceiling and brought out how abstienence is better. I doubt I would have gone to the drug store and bought birth control.

    I think in a school setting or other group setting, kids are more comfortable talking about the subject. Girls know their moms are going to try to talk them out of it. But if we remember our own teen years and remember the pressure we had from boys, sometimes even at an early age. Unfortunately, this generation is more sexual. TV, videos, commercials, music, clothing, etc. Sex is everywhere. When I was a kid, couples had twin beds on TV shows. Now you see positions, moans, and on cable even nudity.

    The important thing I try to tell my daughter now is not to do it again. I think that sex education classes should not only teach about safe sex, but the social economics about having children before you are ready. People want to think it’s the parent’s responsibility, but how many of you have teen girls. Try to tell them anything, pick up your clothes, do your homework, don’t listen to that kind of music, their friends are the wrong people and what do they do. TURN YOU OFF 99% OF THE TIME!

    Of course the baby’s father is gone, of course my daughter has continued her life and she’s dating again. She will graduate this year, with plans of going into nursing. But the threat of sex will remain in her life for a long time. I monitor her birth control even though she tells me she’s not having sex. I heard that one before. But more importantly, I sit her and her new boyfriend down and try to explain to them that people have sex for pleasure–not to have children. I tell them if they are engaging in sex to be responsible. If you truly want to be together later in your lives and marry, you will still want to have the option to plan your family. It’s so much better for a baby to have 2 parents that are awaiting their arrival, than one parent that is scared, embarrassed and alone to raise a love child.

    I wish we were still in a generation where you could tell kids to wait until marriage, and some may do that. But in this economy where so many are struggling, it’s easier to spare another economic strain than to rely on our kids just to say no.

    I am pro-life. I give my daughter all the support and help I can. My grandson is beautiful, but my daughter’s life would be so much less complicated if she had made a choice to be a mother much later in her life.

  • fivefteleven

    ~ “We need to put aside the partisan BS and confront unplanned pregnancies. Let’s do all we can to keep our kids from either having pre-marital sex or unprotected sex, and then we won’t have to deal with them choosing to have an abortion or not, or, as the Palins noted in their statement, seeing our children “grow up faster than we had ever planned” and having to confront “the difficulties of raising a child.”

    Thank You Roland!!! I am so glad you wrote this blog….regardless of the fact if we are pro-choice or pro-life, the information still should be available to our children. The hiv/aids rate among other stds is through the roof and we need to do something about it. Our teens are out here having sex like there aren’t any consequences and like it’s no big deal to have children at a young age and out of wedlock. Hence, a generation of “jumpoff’ or “bussit” babies out here in most likey more single parent households.

    If and when I have children I will teach them abstinence, but if you feel that after all I have taught you concerning our christian beliefs and you still want to make the concious choice to have pre-marital sex, please make sure that it is protected at all times…and I can’t stress that enough.

    You are on point as usual Roland!!!

  • razorboy

    I teach my children not to play with fire, but I show them how to use the fire extinguisher, in case they make a mistake. Well, thank heaven that the family is able to rally around Bristol for support. With the US divorce rate as high as is, most women need it. I’m sure if need be there will be financial support as well. It’s a good thing that this child was planned, proving that abstinance-Only education a success. As for abortion, on the “Daily Show” Samantha’s segment had it right, Bristol made a Choice. With the expansion of poverty driven child abuse, I find that I support choice. That doesn’t mean that abortion would be my choice, …but then I’m a man. Yes, abortions are horrific, but condoms work more times than they fail, If you must have sex. so let’s educate all Americans, young & old, about protection. For we are flesh, and we’ll make mistakes.

  • Sam

    I can’t believe that America is falling for the shallow, weak, degrading ramblings and lies of Sarah Palin. I know that public education has really dummied us down and blocked our abilities to be critical thinkers, but I am praying we do not fall for this old deceitful political crap that they have always used to mislead “we the people” and trap us in their absolutely nothing bullshit. Wake up America!

  • Twyla

    I am very disapointed that the Democrates feel as though they do not have to worry about this women sarah palin.I feel as though they need to come after this women hard with the facts about all the things that she voted against and for the things that she now stand for and compare the facts,get it out there.this is why the Republicans are trying to keep the press away so that they can build up and steal votes from hillary supporters.This women is not all that they boost her up to be and I can’t take it any more.I would like for barack to stop saying that this women does not matter because she does.If something happens to mCcain she will be our president if he wins come nov.I want them to hit mCcain and her hard with the issues and tell the Americans voters while there campaigning what they plan to do about it as if they where at the Democratic convention,stern with fire.

  • Twyla

    I think that the Democrates have to focus on both MCcain and Palin, Bidin needs to get busy like yesterday on her ass!!!!!

  • Twyla

    THE REPUBLICANS PRATICALLY THROUGH BARACK AND MICHELLE UDER THE BUS AND NOW THEY DON’T WANT NO ONE QUESTIONING PALIN,LIKE I DON’ THINK SO!!! THERE BULLIES AND IF THE DEMOCRATES DON’T WATCH OUT FOR THIS WOMEN WE COULD LOOSE THIS ELECTION COME NOV.EXPOSE PALIN FOR THE LIAR THAT SHE IS!!!!JOHN MCcain RUNS TO AID FOR THE HURRICAN VICTIMS THIS WEEK.WHERE THE HELL WAS HE WHEN KATRINA HIT NEW ORLEANS THERE ARE PEOPLE STILL TRYING TO BUILD THERE LIVES FROM THAT HURRICAN AND NEED HELP TO PULL THERE SELFS UP,AND FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO SHOW THE 911 DISASTER DURING THERE CONVENTION JUST TO GET VOTES IS APAULLING TO ME.THEY SENT MILLIONS OF SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN INTO A FAULSE SITUATION TO DIE,IT SHOW ME THAT THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THERE POWER BUT ABUSE IT!!!!

  • Dot

    Is it true that Gov Palin has not respond back to the NAACP request to sit and talk to her about the Africian American issues in Anchorage Alaska? I heard that they have been trying to talk to this woman for two years since she became the Govenor. I saw some reporting done on CNN on her, but nothing about her relationiship with the Africian American community. There are plenty of Blacks there in Alaska. Also at the Repubican Convention it did not look like the America that we live and work in.

  • Independent Voter

    Denise, Nebraska,

    I believe that the conversation regarding abstinence is worth having. Since Palin is pro-life there was never a question as to whether she would have her child or or daughter would have her child. It appears that everyone is trying to act like these pro-life people was contemplating abortion. However, Sarah Palin’s record shows that she has choosen to support abstinent only programs and has knocked down any programs that would support a comprehensive sex education program. We have to first deal with letter A = abstinence before we can deal with letter B = Baby; which both should equal letter S = Sex Education.

  • Independent Voter

    kuntakinte,

    White America has been reporting the statistics on African American teen pregnancies for years, therefore your statement is weak. White America has been trying to demonize minorities for years regarding teen pregnancies and now a white woman puts her under-aged pregnant daughter on display and nobody can talk about it? Please!

    There is plenty of teen pregnancies in the white community – it is just not reported. One of the reasons it is not reported is because white teens have the financial means to acquire abortions at a higher rate than minorities. Try stating the statistics on the abortion rate between whites and minorities.

    Whatever argument you were trying to make with that ignorant statement, it just further proves that sex education is needed in all communities. White is not always right!

    P.S. I am White Woman who works with teen mothers.

  • April

    The whole issue with Palin’s daughter being pregnant is personal. But it also says a lot about Palin and her parenting. If the woman cannot keep her home life in line then what sort or Vice President is she going to be. She never should have accepted the opportunity considering she has 5 children that need their mom in a greater capacity than the one who is pregnant-or will she also need to help out and be a grandmother? Palin may need to help her pregnant daughter and Palin and anyone in their life on a need to know basis knew this before McCain announced that she would be his running mate. The problem is that this brings up mixed feelings. But the question is-can she handle these many responsibilities. So what-a hockey mom. So what-a governor. But what else. She is a member of the NRA. I’m a registered gun owner-but I’m no dummy-I mean Republican. That explains the upcoming shotgun toting wedding that is about to happen with her daughter and prospective future son in law. That is the political move there. That would be condoning to the issue of having children out of wedlock. What people are not seeing is that Palin is merely a smokescreen-McCain has to someway divert the attention from Obama being the presumptive first black President because he would make history but not because he was chosen by one-he was chosen by millions. Palin was chosen by one OLD MAN who knew that if Obama didn’t pick Hillary, then he must pick a woman. Why do you think he chose a woman in the first place after knowing about her for 15 minutes. If Obama picked Hillary, McCain would’ve gone with Huckabee or Romney. DUH-get a clue.
    What it comes down to is the fact that yes children will continue to be born-but to whom. Obama’s children are young so teen pregnancy is not of his concern. Republicans will have to support McCain regardless-that is just who these people are.

  • Susan F

    I will be voting for the first time and was initially turned on by Palin’s nomination. I eventually got thrown off when she paraded the boyfriend of her 17 year old pregnant daughter at the RNC. I am not sure what type of family values Sarah Palin was presenting to us. It is fine for Palin to support her daughter, but having the boyfriend that got her 17 year old pregnant on national stage at the RNC sends a wrong signal to lots of teenagers in this country. Bush,Clinton, Gore, etc, all had teenage daughters at one point and I never saw their boyfriends on national stage. Sarah Palin lost her soul on that one. I am leaning to Obama again..

  • kalesha

    Hey Roland,

    I was born and raised in Fairbanks, Alaska. I am 23 yrs old, and Palin is so full of shit! She is a liar and a Hypocrite. And so is McCain by the way. I am so pissed that the media is critized for being sexest over Mrs. Palin. First of all, look at McCains campaign and tell me who is sexest! what would happen if Obama chose to hide Biden from the media? McCains campaign is taking advantage of her new found celebrity, and using her for their own means. McCain said he’d pick someone who was ready on day one, by hiding her and prepping her, tell me is that being ready by day one? That’s more sexest than most think. It undermines equality. And if it keeps up people will lose interest.

  • AMY GRAHAM

    Thanks Kalesha. You are so right. That OLD coon did say he would pick someone who was ready on Day 1. Well, then why is he HIDING his “Pitbull.” I know why, because it AINT no “Pitbull” more like a MOUSE looking for cheese. I keep telling people, the Republican Mob has no intention whatsoever on letting that “NUT” anywhere, near any RED PHONE or NUCLEAR button or the WHITE HOUSE for that matter. She has shown the world what a LIAR she is… “I put it on Ebay” and the OLD coon sucking it up, the next day “did you hear what she said, she put it on Ebay and sold it for a PROFIT.” ALL LIES. NONE OF IT TRUE. That NUT – PALIN, better tell John McCain, the TRUTH. I am not what you want on your ticket. I am a LIAR AND A CONARTIST, and my soon to be SON-IN-LAW is a SELF-PROLCAIMED RED NECK, WHO SAID ON HIS MY SPACE, “I AM A RED NECK, AND I DON’T WANT NO F_ _ _ ING CHILDREN.” Check it out AMERICA. I saw it with my own EYES. Yep, they are real CLOWNS. Oh, and she had the nerve to have that SELF-PROCLAIMED RED NECK on the stage before the WORLD with her sad pregnant daughter holding hands. WHAT A DISGRACE….

  • Mista GetItRight

    I sure hope the Dems don’t punk out on this one. They should be nailing the republicans for their VP Palin. She is not even qualified to be an ESPN sports reporter. We all know why she was even picked to be Alaska’s governor. If anyone looked close to her record as the Mayor of the small town they would see she was not qualified to be the governor of Alaska. I think they are trying to run a beauty contest instead of a presidential campaign. As for her daughter, if it was Obama’s daughter’s they would be all over him and his wife. Just like they attacked the Disney channel for having that girl on while she was pregnant. The right wing said she was not a good road model for kids.

  • CD

    There is also information in regard to Gov. Palin possibliy having an with her husband’s ex-business partner who has attempted to have his divorce records sealed but was denied by an Alaska judge. Has anyone else heard of this, I don’t no if the news media is currently investigating this information.

    http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2008/09/did-sarah-palin-have-adulterous-affairs.html

  • http://RolandMartin Tinya

    Can somebody please tell the Obama Camp to talk about the difference in their assistance to help folks loosing their homes (I.E. McCain will only help appr. 400,000) as compared to Obama 3x that amount. People are loosing theirs homes Dems and Reps alike. This infor needs to be contrasted in bold diverse advertisement. I feel they are really missing an opportunity to contrast these differences. If this is already happening let me know.

  • SEA

    What is the truth behind the internet story that the father of Palin’s daughter child is Black (video from him posted on Blackbottom.com). Moreso interested in the fact that Palin is pushing this guy Levy as the “father” and pushed this 17 year old African American male away just because he is black. Any truth to all this?

  • CD

    I don’t think that anyone is criticizing Gov. Palin because she is white but because of what she has stated that she stands for and tries to convince others to do, such as teaching abstinence and also setting an example for others. For an example, if you say that you disagree teenage pregnancy, don’t appear national television stating that you are proud of your daughter who is 17 years of age and pregnant! You or either for Abstinence or against Abstinence, which is NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE!!!!!! She can’t just drop her belief of Abstinence just because her teenage daughter is pregnant and not married!!!!!

  • SEA

    Video from alleged father of Palin’s daughter’s child:
    http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=WdBJd9b9i8A

  • Eric

    First of all, I think John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as VP is solid, despite the political and personal turmoil the ticket will face. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Political Smokescreen 101. How does a 70-plus year-old man reinvigorate a sagging campaign? Easy, he picks an attractive, conservative female running mate from a paint-by-numbers state like Alaska. Sure there are political and personal entanglements but McCain’s been in the game long enough to know there are thousands of voters in America looking for any reason to NOT vote for a black man as President. Sarah Palin allows the McCain campaign to lay its claim to a piece of the “historic” nomenclature. His campaign would not have this by selecting a more experienced and male running mate. There were even a handful of female running mates to choose from other than Palin among Rebublicans just not as attractive. Let’s face it. If our Presidents were selected for the actual skills, experience and talents necessary for the job, we wouldn’t be discussing any of the current choices, Democrat or Republican. We would actually be considering people who have served at the local level, then state level, then nationally in positions and areas they have expertise. You know, the people who actually advise mayors, governors, senators, and presidents. Remember them?

  • CD

    I have spoken with many teenagers who have conceived children and the majority of these teenagers are suffering economically and academically. Let’s look at Bristol Palin; she may have a better support system than many American teenagers. Can Gov. Palin afford to help take care of and support Bristol and her new baby? YES. Can most parents afford to help their daughters who have new babies? NO! So, what normally occurs is that the government has to step in with programs such as WIC, TANAF, FOOD STAMPS, WELFARE, PUBLIC HOUSING, and MEDICAID. SO, where does the money come from to pay for this? Hard-working American citizens, TAXES!!!!!!!!!!! Would it be cheaper to ABSTAIN or use CONTRACEPTION? When someone MOTHERS or FATHERS a child, they should be able to provide SHELTER, FOOD, and CLOTHING without the expense of hardworking American citizens, TAXES!!!! So, no it is not okay for teenagers to have children because it sends the wrong message. However, I disagree with Abortion except when there is a danger and health risk but I approve of Abstinence and other preventive measures. Remember, every other American family is not in the same income bracket as Gov Palin. She has state health insurance and a nice salary, what about the average American household?

  • CD

    You are correct. I am an illegitimate child. I have only seen my father three times, as a matter of fact we have just renewed our relationship July of this year. I am also a college graduate and finishing up my Masters in Education May of 2009 in which I will begin working toward my P.H.D. I also was in special education classes in high school in which I dropped out in the eleventh grade and later went back and finished upon joining the U.S. Navy. So, I know and understand what you are saying, but it does not excuse Gov. Palin’s ethics and her behavior.

  • Shirley Bryant

    Shirley Bryant has sent you an item from http://www.ktuu.com.

    There is something incredulous about this story. These are Sarah Palin parents holding Trig. Where are the pictures with Trig’s parents holding their new born? I would think this would be major big time news for a govenor to be having a baby following an 8 hr flight from Texas to Alaska, after her water had broken! Where are the pictures of her pregnant with Trig? A fairly new governor being pregnant would be a major story to my way of thinking. Being 44 years old and having a baby so long after her last pregnancy would be breaking news. Why isn’t there more investigation into this pregnancy of Sarah Palin? There is something suspect about this especially when it has been reported that Alaskans and Sarah Palin’s closet staff were surprised when she reported being pregnant in her third trimester. It would appear to me that the Alaskan news media would have been on top of this story from beginning to end with headlines screaming- Governor Palin Pregnant with 5th Child. Anyway who gets on a plane after your water has broken to fly for 8 hours?

    Welcome to Alaska, Trig Paxson Van Palin
    Trig Paxson Van Palin was born at Mat-Su Regional Hospital this morning at about 6:30 a.m., according to the governor’s office. He is the Palins’ fifth child. The governor went into labor at an energy conference yesterday in Texas and flew back to Alaska to have the child.
    http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8194634

    Find more items like this at http://www.ktuu.com

    Copyright 2008 KTUU

  • CD

    What Jesus was saying about the “Sermon on the Mount” is that it would be difficult for our own defense dept. would be able to obey the “Sermon on the Mount”. It speaks of being meek and humble. Do they hunger after righteousness, that means to do what is right in the sight of God or do they do what pleases their flesh. Are they seeking mercy from God, Are they being persecuted. Do you understad the thelological context of wht the Sermon on “Sermon on the Mount” is realy saying. We need to practice Exegesis rather pratice Isogesis!!!!!!!

  • CD

    What Obama was saying and communicating regarding the “Sermon on the Mount” is that it would be difficult and almost impossible for our own Defense Department to obey the “Sermon on the Mount”. The “Sermon on the Mount” speaks and discusses being meek and humble. Does the Defense Department hunger after righteousness, this means to do what is right in the sight of God and not to do what pleases their flesh. Are they seeking mercy from God?, True confession and repentance, Are they being persecuted. Do you understand the theological context of what the Sermon on “Sermon on the Mount” is really saying and the purpose and intent of the “Sermon on the Mount” ? We need to practice Exsogesis rather practice Isogesis!!!!!!!

  • CD

    Well, tell me what you believe he was actually insinuating when he quoted the scriptures?

  • CD

    I to prefer a very strong Army, sure we will be safe, Broke, Busted, Disgusted, in poverty, homeless, no health insurance, but at least we have a strong army who have members that are also Broke, Busted, Disgusted, in poverty, homeless, sloppy health care. Not to mention who may not have social security once they have fought for their country and if they are wounded, they are kicked to the curve.

  • CD

    May I also add, HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE EVEN PAY FOR ANOTHER WAR. Have you heard about he $407,000,000,000 Billion dollar deficit. We even owe our enemies, that’s bad when you are in debt to people who are a threat to you. So, can we afforda Strong Army?

  • Marlene McKinney

    As a 70-year-old Mother/Grandmother I have looked at Bristol Palin with a different assessment. I have noticed the tender care with which she embraces her “little brother.” Sarah does not even display the same tenderness; after all of the hoopla and grandstanding is over, that baby ends up right back in Bristol’s arms, held tenderly on her breast. Is it possible that this pregnancy is Bristol’s second? Reports have leaked out about her many months of absence from school. Does anyone believe that Sarah was able to hide her “pregnancy” from family and friends for eight months? If so, buy the bridge to nowhere. Given the fact that John McCain chose to “surprise” everyone with his nomination, the citizens of this country have the right to know how easily it is for Sarah to present what sells to an electorate that refuses to require standards BEFORE the election. Eight years of fluff, stupidity and the need to start a war and play cowboy on the sidelines have gotten us in this mess. Also, let us not forget the many months when the assessment of Barack Obama was, “he might be smart, etc., but, (we) don’t really know him.” Well, after nineteen months, we know that he was born in Hawaii to a Kenyan (Black) father and White mother; we know (although some refuse to believe) that he is a Christian, well-educated and, along with having been a community organizer, is a Constitutional Scholar with Professorial Credentials from The University of Chicago, a loving husband and father. We also know that he meets the criteria for serving as President, as set forth in the Constitution of the United States of America. We know that he is Black because he has “a drop of Black Blood” as required by our erstwhile “leaders” who determined the guidelines for such. We know that he has never wavered from his Platform: “Change We Can Believe In” and “Yes, We Can!” We know that he impressed George Bush to meet with foreign dignitaries with whom we have disagreement: Did we not see Secretary of State Condeleeza Rice landing, recently, on Libyan soil? And, we know that Bush just today announced the withdrawal of 8,000 Troops from Iraq, as though it was a brainstorm he just decided to use. We also notice that McCain thinks Change is good for the Country – “Fight with me, fight with me.” (How pitiful.) Barack so eloquently reminded us in his Acceptance Speech (which he wrote) that ” . . . this campaign has never been about me; it’s about You!” So, now, McCain is not working for either party nor the government, “we’re fighting for you.” No shame, just take what he wants. Finally, to comment on a question raised by “Assata” who blogged on September 2, regarding Michelle Obama’s finally being proud of her country in her lifetime. As a senior citizen (African American) I will take liberty in suggesting that she may have been proud to see such a diverse group of citizens, particularly Caucasians, gathered around her husband, a Black man, to support him as a viable candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America, rather than for the purpose of lynching, which is a documented part of our history. As James Brown reminded us years ago, “We’re Living in America!” The opportunity is here for her to be all that she has claimed to be.

  • Maria

    I am chiming in with my two cents. The question we should be asking regarding the teenagers having sex, is why? See, as adults, we know about hormones and those feelings that are going to come, but I would like to know what else they are doing besides sex? Seems like the question that Mrs. Palin should be finding out is why her daughter felt the need to have sex right now knowing how her mom feels. Did she get pregnant to get back at her mom, want something of her own to love? We know that adults who raise their voices loud in favor of a program (in this case abstinence) are the same ones who are not having conversation at home with their kids. I wonder how Bristol felt with a new baby in the home and all the attention that he brings. Notwithstanding his disabilities, but that her mom’s focus is once again not on Bristol. She keeps touting she’s a hockey mom, but there is no title with her and Bristol, she’s not shouting that she’s a “tuned in mom” with her daughter. Just seems like she’s ready to come in and attack Obama, but she hasn’t found out what’s really going on with her daughter. Perhaps to undergo therapy with Bristol would mean that she really is like “regular” people who do not have all the answers and need to seek help, not the I’m a republican, I’m right and have all the answers, end of subject.
    Picking a woman was not the problem, having a mentality like a man is where the line is drawn. She knows the bible, the men are the leaders and we have been given the gift of being sensitive we are to balance each other. She and McCain are not balanced. Her family is definitely out of balance because she is definitely wearing the pants, and as a Christian, that is not following the bible.
    She came on so fired up with her Annie Oakley image, as if that’s all she cares about, drawing attention to herself. She states she’s a Christian, then she needs to be VERY careful, because the one thing God does not like and she is well aware, is the ALL ABOUT ME complex. She has stated several time, “I started this program…I sold this plane…I, I, I….”

  • Edarling Fields

    Palin file updated:

    1.Troopergate/ currently ducking a deposition under oath and refusing to turn over 1100 emails.
    2. Replaced the guy she fired in troopergate with someone with a sexual harassment complaint who lasted 10 days – and then gave him a $10,000 severance package in exchange for not suing the state.
    3. Todd’s Alaska Independence Party connections
    4. Used a state site to promote mining interests over clean water.
    5. Bridge to nowhere: being for it before she was against it – and still lying about it!
    6. For earmarks before she was against them
    7. Pumping money into a bankrupt Alaska dairy and then selling it off to cronies
    8. Firing employees as mayor over loyalty issues
    9. Attempting to ban books from the library and fire the librarian
    10. Involved in the 527 for Ted Stevens
    11. As mayor hired a lobbyist to secure $27 million dollars in pork for town of 6,000 residents.
    12. Her own still dubious pregnancy/flying 3000 miles after her water broke and back at work 3 days after the “birth”.
    13. Her expensive ($25 million) screwup with building a sports complex in Wasilla as mayor
    14. Anti-choice
    15. Anti-gay marriage
    16. Pro-abstinence only (Tell that one to Bristol)
    17. Pro-gun
    18. Anti-environment (wolves and polar bears & beluga whales)
    19. Pro-drilling
    20. Global warming denier
    21. Creationist/wants it taught in schools
    22. Thought the Pledge of Allegiance dates to the founding of the country (it was penned in 1892 and “under God” was added in 1954)
    23. Thinks the End Times will occur in her lifetime
    24. Attends a church with an anti-Semitic, anti-Islamic pastor that believes you can “pray away the gay”
    25. Charged the state nearly $17,000 in per diem travel expenses when she was living at home
    26. Fannie & Freddie gaffe.
    27. The troopers union is filing suit because Trooper Wooten’s disciplinary records were looked into.
    28. Supports killing wolves from helicopters.
    29. Sequestered from the media.
    30. That personal chef she fired from the mansion, Stefani Marnon, is still on the state payroll – now cooking at the Legislative Lounge.
    31. Attended 5-6 colleges in 6 years.
    32. Son Track involved in juvenile incident where he and 3 other kids stole vodka, then vandalized fifty school buses. He may have enlisted in an “either jail or military” deal.
    33. Firing her friend and legislative aide, John Bitney, because he was dating the wife of one of their married friends
    34. Still lying about selling the plane on E-Bay for a profit and telling Congress “Thanks But No Thanks” for that Bridge To Nowhere.
    35. Not a “hands on” executive & lacks follow through. One of those executives who doesn’t read much beyond the executive summary. Not unlike Bush.
    36. Vindictive & mean. Does not like dissent. If you are not perceived as loyal, she’ll crush you. Not unlike Cheney, Bush, & Rove.
    37. Video showing her stating that she doesn’t know what a VP does. The rest of us learned this in the 3rd grade.
    38. Palin promotes Alaska National Guard general three days AFTER he indorses her.

    Dated: Sept 9. 2008

  • Maria

    Another point worth talking about: God has given us the right to choose, so if Palin is following God, she should know that the people have freedom of choice. Her stand on abstinence is her choice. Her daughter’s decision to have sex outside of marriagge is not going to affect whether Sarah gets into heaven or not, neither will our choices have an affect on Mrs. Palin’s final destination. The only question she should be concerned with is: “are things alright with her soul?”

  • http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/petermatos http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/petermatos

    New McCain ad on sex ed. This ad is below the belt. First of all “age appropriate sex ed” is just that and the American Academy of pediatrics supports it. The point of age appropriate sex ed is to edcuate to prevent sexual abuse and teen preganacy. The Dems need to press back hard.

  • Marlene McKinney

    Let us register and then, Vote, in large numbers.

  • bebe joycell

    Why was Obama’s comment about a pig wearing lipstick so offensive to some CNN viewers and McCain followers?? I don’t think it was offensive at all. Isn’t Sarah Palin the one who called HERSELF a DOG when she said “the only difference between a pitbull and a soccer mom is lipstick”?? If she called HERSELF a dog, she should also feel comfortable being called a pig (although I don’t think Obama intentionally was calling her a pig). Why try to label Obama as being sexest when Palin is the one who compared herself to an animal. Looks like McCain has himself a real dog. LOL!!

  • XEN

    I think its quite clear the very important decision we have to make as a nation, what direction we choose to take our country, but I beg everyone to keep in mind how this country is divided into very diverse segments and also be aware of how our politicians play on that diversity to be elected. For example the republican party has had eight years of control in the executive and legislative branch of our government yet we still find ourselves wrestling with the same issue : abortion, homosexuality,oil the real question is why? If abortion was such a hot issue for republicans why haven’t they done anything about it in the last eight years? Maybe they really understand that it would create a population explosion in a world with so few resources, they’ve had ample time to enact something correct? Homosexuality, don’t ask don’t tell is still the law which was proposed by Bill Clinton why hasn’t that been abolished?Maybe because they need troops to populate their wars. whether I agree with one side or another really doesn’t matter, but I do profoundly believe in balance of power and separation of church and state these are two fundamental rights of our constitution if we lose those we lose America. I just hope after all is said and done when we step into the voters booth keep in mind what kind of country are we creating for our children

  • Raymond

    I agree with you Mr. Martin 100%. You know as a Christian, I was decieve and didn’t think for myself years ago on these issues. But thank God for people like yourself and my pastor who breaks it down in reality the way it is. The problem with us older folks….we are in denial.
    I’m glad you brought this to our attention because it shed light on how hypocritical the Republican conservatives are.

  • CD

    We heard about these topics fro bush during his campaigns, but have not heard from him since on these topics All of the Pastors and Churches fail for this, they were tricked.

  • CD

    You guys have got to see John McCain in this video quoting Lipstick on a Pig and he said it before Obama. Here is the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

  • CD

    kuntakinte , please vote for who you believe would be he best candidate.

  • Stacey Tipton

    I believe the best candidate is Obama for many reasons; one, he doesn’t come with all that baggage, two, he’s talking about the issues that are affecting the American people and three, remember Palin has a degree in journalism and she knows a thing or two about manipulating the media, this is what she does… she a professional. McCain picked a person that has her own agenda ahead of the American people and who looks good in front of the camera. Palin is no stranger to controversy, she lives for it. Obama needs to come at her not in his own words but Biden needs to address her. Remember she will be the vise not the man. Obama needs to remind Palin that she will be the vise and responses shouldn’t come from him they should come from Biden. America needs to take a look around this is not a white America anymore. So what if the white women shifted to Palin, there are more women of color in America than white women, so we’ll all stick together and ignore the media frenzy and embrace the fact that brains always wins over beauty.

  • Maizena

    I want to say this to Sarah Palin: SUT UP and PLEASE SHUT UP.
    Does Palin knows what she’s really playing with? How can she keep talking abou her being a PTA mom and connot take care of her home. A PTA mom who will come out to say it, is a real mom who makes all the sacrifice for her children to come up in a real good way. For example, spending 95% of her time with her kids, working odd jobs for her kids to have good EDUCATION. As Shakespares said in hs book MacBeth: “The evil that man do live after them”. Now the evil that we do is living with us.
    Palin thought when she was going against abstenance her two daughters were all NUNS. Her daughter is only learning from the PTA mom to be a PTA mom as well.
    Roland, most of us on your blog are women who are giving their views I don’t know how we can vote for her.
    Secondly, if she is trying to compare herself with Hilary, Hilary had a daughter who wanted to be like her mother, hard working, educated and a mother who will listen to her husband as the head of the home (the bible say)and not she being the husband while her husband stay home and take care of the kidsbeing the wife. She can NEVER, EVER be like Hilary not for the least.

    The bible says “Train up a child in the way he should grow, when he is old he won’t depart”.
    Well I guess she hasn’t read this as an Evangalist.

  • manchild

    Great ,repubs do it it is a badge of honor,when us dems do it …it is shameful…
    stop using politics as a moral judge…it dont mix and during election time youll see it dont work.
    Palin cant run her own house and Mccain dosent know how many houses he has.

  • AMERICA’S FUTURE

    NO NO NO, WHAT CAN’T BE IGNORED IS THE FACT THAT, TRIG PALIN IS SARAH’S GRANDCHILD, I REPEAT THAT NEWBORN BABY IS HER GRANDCHILD. AMERICA PLEASE WAKE UP, THERE PHOTO’S THAT PROVE IT, THE GIRL WAS OUT OF SCHOOL FOR 5 MONTHS BECAUSE MONO (10 Days at the most), STUDENTS AT WASILLA HIGH SCHOOL KNOW IT, PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS SLIDE, IT’S NOT FAIR. PLEASE AMERICAN’S ESPECIALLY DEMOCRATS DON’T FALL FOR THIS B.S.

    JON STEWART AIRED A SEGMENT THE OTHER NIGHT SPECIFICALLY ON REPUBLICAN CONTRADICTIONS JUST IN THE PAST 3 MONTHS. THEY ARE LYING! LYING! LYING!

    PLEASE WATCH ALL OF THIS LINKS PEOPLE…..

    CONTRADICTIONS:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMiUAcEJY98

    PREGNANT: (EVERYBODY KNOWS)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBjwZ93n6Q

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdYdCfl60

    THE REAL CONSERVATIVE BRISTOL PALIN: (MUST WATCH)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwvt_8CLFWg

    PALIN’S CHURCH’S EXTREME VIEWS: (THEY PUT REVEREND WRIGHT ON BLAST FOR SAYING THE TRUEST FACTS)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_VduCWhzM

  • patrina

    I just want to say on this topic Mr. Roland that its refreshing to see an African-American prospective on the political issues and topics, But whats really bias is that if the tables were turned, the Republician party would say that the teen pregnancy is a disgrace. What gives white America the options that other nationalities have had put in their faces from years of generations that was classified as unwed mothers, now the message is that its okay if its white America but the middle class is sterotyped.Obama needs to push forward hard and not play into the now celebrity he called obama just a few weeks back.

  • Stacey Tipton

    Best candidate

  • Sue Billings

    Teenage pregancy is the issue here, and clearly shows that you can preach abstinance, but you can’t take away the urge to have sex. First of all God created sex, so it’s a natural feeling and desire. Now to control unwanted or teenage pregancies is the bigger issue that needs to be addressed. Palin’s daughter isn’t the first teenager to get pregnant. It’s been happening since the early 1900 and beyond. The dismay is that Palin is glorifying it by announcing that the young man and her daughter are going to be wedded. How many young men do you know that really want to be married at 18 or a father, not many. Therefore, the choice to get married is another hiddend factor to make an unfortunate mistake look good and not label a white chick as a mother having a baby out of wedlock. The reality is, even if they marry, the baby was conceived out of wedlock, therefore it’s no different than other teenagers who didn’t get married, but conceived a child before they were ready. So let’s not fool ourselves, but let’s understand that this is a sensitive issue for their family that should have been left behind their closed doors to deal with.

  • Sue Billings

    Sarah Palin is like a new pair of shoes. The nuance of the fresh smelling leather is always the hype when you first buy them. But give it a few days and you buy another pair, the first pair becomes old and sometime forgotten amongst the rest of the shoes. I’m sure you get my point.

  • AMY OF DAYTON

    My Fellow Americans, here is the link to what Old Man McCain and the Republican Mob want us to vote for, and actually put this sickness in the White House. GUNS AND ALCOHOL. A bunch of foolishness. Check it out, it is scarry.

    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-82823

  • Maria

    The only person who will ever be fair and objective is God. God is watching while we continue to tear each other down. As long as there is one group against the other, in this case, republicans vs. dems there will always be friction. What would it look like if we, the voters, stuck to the issues, stated how we felt, and left the trash talking to the media? Can anyone have a conversation without putting someone down?

  • TINA

    ROLAND,

    HOW MUCH DOES OBAMA PAY YOU TO GO AROUND TO EVERY LIBERAL NETWORK TO SUPPORT HIM.

    YOU NEED TO COME CLEAN ON WHO YOU ARE SUPPORTING. OTHERWISE, YOU ARE A FRAUD.

  • DCB

    I saw a youtube blog just a few minutes where a young black man claims to be the father of this child and that the Palins are keeping him from having any say so in the pregnancy. He gives a compelling argument about how he met Bristol up in Wasilla while visiting some relatives there last year. He states that he wants to be responsible and a part of his child’s life but the Palins don’t want it told that the young man they are parading around as the father is really not but of course he is a young white male and the right wing conservatives even in 2008 would not be as supportive if they knew that the entire family is perpetuating a lie. If you could research this latest angle and let me along with everyone else the truth. We certainly don’t want to distort the truth but don’t want to deny the truth either.

  • Steve K

    Roland,

    Last night on the CNN blog I saw your comment about your response to a person commenting on this column.

    You said “Dude! Her daughter (Palin’s) is on welfare! Her pregnancy will be paid for by the taxpayers since she’s on her mom’s medical plan”

    With your logic govenment employee’s medical benefit plan is welfare?

    Government employee’s provide a service to the taxpayer’s, therefore receive compensation for those services. Part of that compensation package is a medical plan.

    Welfare to me would be taxpayer’s paying for something without getting anything in return for that compensation.

    I just can’t see where you can say government empolyee’s family’s are receiveing welfare because they are on their parent’s medical plan.

    Steve K

  • Scott

    Great post that really gets right to the heart of the matter.

    I was surprised that the skyrocketing (40% and climbing) out-of-wedlock birthrate wasn’t mentioned.

    You hardly hear any politician even mention that alarming stat.

    You can throw in the scary-high STD rate on top of that.

  • Fefy

    Ok. The View interview with McCain is the funniest interview I have every seen….He can put on the waterworks at the drop of a time too…..This is the man you want to elect….WOW…I hope everyone watches it.

  • Fefy

    Roland please help…the media CNN, FOX is so bias for Palin it is unreal…they are so scared of being labeled sexist that they aremedia accepting anything…That interview that she did was a joke…she was horrible…and media and pundants say oh she did fine…please…they have even put Keith and Chris on short leash too.

  • Fefy

    Did McCain cheat on his current wife? Has that ever been explored

  • http://www.greenerway2shop.com Davon Hall

    Communities are the foundation of the United States. Men and women in the community elect local, state, and federal officials they feel can make a positive difference for them and their children. That being said, CHANGE begins in the community. For Gov. Palin to belittle or diminish the credentials and achievements of a person who works diligently to make a difference in the lives of hard working Americans is appalling. Men and women in communities all throughout the United States are losing their homes, jobs, health care, 401k’s, dignity, etc. and all Sen. John McBush and Gov. Palin can do is criticize Sen. Obama’s positions and values.

    Since the announcement of Gov. Palin’s candidacy to the Republican ticket, she and Sen. McBush have visited several states delivering the same tired speech, and offering no solutions to the major issues in this country. As they deliver that awful speech, they attack Sen. Obama. When Sen. Obama responds to an attack, Republicans want to label him a sexist. The moment Gov. Palin decided to run as Sen. McBush’s VP, she subjected herself to the scrutiny that comes along with the process of acquiring such an important position. It’s quite obvious that the McBush camp is desperate, and it’s that desperation that causes Republicans to raise allegations of sexism.

    Gov. Palin’s gender isn’t an issue, it’s what she claimed she’s done for the state of Alaska. Gov. Palin is taking credit for legislation that was in the process of being approved or denied before she took office. Personally, I don’t trust ANYONE who tells “Half-truths.” Gov. Palin boast about firing the cook. That’s nothing to boast about. All she did was add to the unemployment rate. Gov. Palin cut funding for children with special needs, but reversed her decision when she found out she was pregnant with a child that would have special needs. As a DISABLED taxpaying citizen of the United states, this type of behavior is alarming. Gov. Palin states she opposes stem-cell research. If her or someone in her family were affected by a debilitating illness or injury, like myself, would her views of stem-cell research/therapy be different? Based on what I’ve learned about her, I believe she’d be in favor of stem-cell research/therapy.

    Race has been an issue throughout this election. John King of CNN was in a small town in southwestern Ohio, and for the most part, people in that area, find it hard to vote for a black man. Instead of neglecting these types of communities, Sen. Obama makes it his business to visit as many small town communities as he can to dispel rumors, and explain how he plans on improving the state of our country. Sen. Obama REFUSES to allow race to deter him from helping everyday ordinary people.

    In closing, I thought plagiarism was illegal? Sen. McBush started his campaign running on experience. The McBush camp saw how effective Sen. Obama’s message of change was with the American people, and now all of a sudden, the McBush camp are the agents of change. Republicans must think that the American people will just forget about the past 8yrs. It’s kind of hard to forget when you’ve lost your home, or when your job was sent overseas. It’s kind of hard to forget that you had to file for bankruptcy because you didn’t have health insurance when you were diagnosed with cancer, or in a horrible accident. I assure you, Americans WILL NOT forget the WORST administration in the history of the United States.

  • LB

    Where is the outrage?? And why no tough questions for Sarah Palin….she’s a heartbeat away from having her finger on the button of a nuclear launch. I’ll take the constitutional lawyer over Palin anyday, she’s hides her irrationality under a cloak of Christian fundamentalism, her main priority has been to bring more money into Alaska, even when that means accetping more earmarks per capita of any governor. She has no scientific mind and no political mind: politics is, for her, a game of calculation, self-promotion, and ridiculously implausibe attacks on persons who could mop the floor with her. ….And I’m a woman saying this!

    Check this out below:

    Katha Pollitt’s 12 Tough Questions for Sarah Palin:

    “Suppose your 14-year-old daughter Willow is brutally raped in her bedroom by an intruder. She becomes pregnant and wants an abortion. Could you tell the parents of America why you think your child and their children should be forced by law to have their rapists’ babies?

    §?You say you don’t believe global warming is man-made. Could you tell us what scientists you’ve spoken with or read who have led you to that conclusion? What do you think the 2,500 scientists of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are getting wrong?

    §?If you didn’t try to fire Wasilla librarian Mary Ellen Baker over her refusal to consider censoring books, why did you try to fire her?

    §?What is the European Union, and how does it function?

    §?Forty-seven million Americans lack health insurance. John Goodman, who has advised McCain on healthcare, has proposed redefining them as covered because, he says, anyone can get care at an ER. Do you agree with him?

    §?What is the function of the Federal Reserve?

    §?Cindy and John McCain say you have experience in foreign affairs because Alaska is next to Russia. When did you last speak with Prime Minister Putin, and what did you talk about?

    §?Approximately how old is the earth? Five thousand years? 10,000? 5 billion?

    §?You are a big fan of President Bush, so why didn’t you mention him even once in your convention speech?

    §?McCain says cutting earmarks and waste will make up for revenues lost by making the tax cuts permanent. Experts say that won’t wash. Balancing the Bush tax cuts plus new ones proposed by McCain would most likely mean cutting Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security. Which would you cut?

    §?You’re suing the federal government to have polar bears removed from the endangered species list, even as Alaska’s northern coastal ice is melting and falling into the sea. Can you explain the science behind your decision?

    §?You’ve suggested that God approves of the Iraq War and the Alaska pipeline. How do you know? ”

    From “Lipstick on a Wingnut,” The Nation, 9/10/08

  • Lisa

    Martin, thanks so much for talking about the issues and not the lies! I hope a lot of truth will be exposed in your CNN Saturday Specials! Thank you again! You are the only CNN analyst who reminds me of Luke Russert.

  • Lisa

    I meant Tim Russert…sorry, I saw Obama and McCain interviews with Luke this morning.

  • Gwen

    I feel that Yes, family is off limits but then why was Senator Obama’s family thrown out there for inspection! The government use a double standard when it’s to their advantage. Senator McCain used a “WOMAN” to up his chance at getting into the White House. He is using her against WOMEN. I say this because he repeated what Senator Clinton said about not knowing Senator Obama or anything about him. Well, how many of you that are gun-ho about Palin heard of her before now? We as Americans must work to make the political world accountable in every endeavor. We take what they give us and look over whether it is truth or not. The Bible said that in the last days people would rather a lie instead of truth and it is being fulfilled. It is time for the hurting people to come together and stand up against lies that have continued to hurt us. This is for everyone who cannot goand draw out 5 million dollars, since that is what McCain said made you a middle class person. Let’s not let the politicians get us off focus of the real issues by buying into what they want us to look at. Let’s stay focus and seek out the truth.

  • http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/politics/ci_10456362 SL

    http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/politics/ci_10456362

    Cant view the link. Google “Forum sells Obama Waffles’ with racial stereotype.

    The link above is disgusting.

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  • Joy

    The Republicans supposedly write the book on righteousness; why is it no one speaks of Palin’s daughter committing fornication?

  • Candace

    I really like the issue that was brought up today. What if the female VP candidate, who had a pregnant daughter on the way, was black? If that were Michelle Obama, Barack would not even be nominated as Democratic President. I can hear the response now – “See another unwanted teen pregnancy in the black community. No home training or education in sight.”

    What do you think?

  • Gary

    Roland you use CNN to influence viewers on whom to vote for, was it necessary to start your show by telling the audience you were voting for Osama? The show was about voters who would vote based on color, age, or gender; the funny part is that you and your other black guest were voting for Obama doing exactly what you were occussing everyone else of doing, voting based on color. I am so tired of hearing Oprah, her side kick Beth, yourself, and others blowing smoke up Obama’s ass on a daily basis at least the white community is split on which candidate they will vote for, I cannot say the same for the black community. They will vote based on color and not the issues, how sad. I hope in the end the best man wins based on the issues, Obama is a liar and could never be trusted his tax cuts are rebates to the poor and will cost taxpayers dearly. Roland you need to keep your candidate to yourself and not use CNN as your own personal soap box. You only get away with it because CNN is also guilty of promoting Osama.

  • macnmome

    As the mother of two teenager daughters I taught them at an early age that sex unprotected or protected for someone not mature enough to handle the consequences is not allowed. No one has talked about not only is unwanted pregnancy a consequence but you have HIV, Hepatitis C and other diseases that you have to live with rest of your life with. This child is being forced into marriage because of her mother’s political aspirations. This reads like back in the old days when your grandmother had a “shotgun” wedding because she was pregnant with your uncle. These children should not have to make that decision but because the girl’s mother was irresponible in raising her daughter she finds herself in this position. I for one, would not be so supportive of my daughter, simply because a child is making an adult decision in deciding to have unprotected sex. And to mention they have been raised to think before they act!

    Now let me say this if this was Sen. Obama’s daughter this would play differently in the news media. Because in this country everything is black and white!

    Maybe Sarah Palin should been more concerned with her kids and less with who her sister marries! Now her daughter can intimidate her aunt!

  • flo

    : hey roland i would like if you would ask america just who mccain is speaking to whe he states obama will raise your taxes. just who in america is the “your” its ceertainly not me and not 85% of ammerica for that fact. roland if americans vote mccain in office then we get what we deserve.
    : americand biggest problems is we will believe anything as long as there is a fairy tale ending attached to it thats how we got in this war mess, jobs mess, housing mess, etc… we can be told any horror sorry as long as we are promised a happy ending how sad

  • Candy_Barr

    I still am wondering when the truth will come out about Palin’s son: On NPR over the past two weeks, her son entering the military has been discussed. As soon as I heard he had joined the Army, I knew that his grades could not have been outstanding. My father was in four branches of the military, retiring from the Air Force after 20 years. About a year ago, while at Travis Air Force Base, I saw a G.E.D. book — or General Education Diploma — for Army enlistees who hadn’t graduated from high school. You see, you don’t have to have a diploma to join the Army, though they must past the test before they send you out.

    Anyway, on NPR, it was stated twice that Palin’s son had gotten into trouble, and was offered a choice by a judge: either jail or the military. He had been in trouble often, but the final straw was when he and some friends got drunk and tore up several schoolbuses.

    That’s two problem children! Hey, I am a Black female, and all for women to make advances. (I voted for Hillary in the primaries.) But in her case, her husband isn’t getting the job done so she should reconsider!

  • working mom

    I want CNN to expose the real issues facing real middle class women in America. I am a middle class working mom who juggles work and family in America. Sarah Palin may be “energizing” the republican base but she definitely does not speak for me. From CNN episode “Sarah Palin Revealed” she was able to juggle work and family by going to work with a baby crib set up in her governor’s office.
    Now I ask how many working moms get to set up cribs at work? Is she living in the same America that real working women like me live? May be this works in Alaska, but it does not fit mainstream America. We do childcare in this part of America. Now that is real. Working moms like me would like to ask McCain/Palin ticket if they have any real plan to make childcare and after school programs affordable other than letting the market fix it. These are real issues that face real working moms in America.

  • Larry

    “Train up a child in the way that he (she) should go: and when he (she) is old, he (she) will not depart from it”. Proverbs 22:6. I find many in the ultra-conservative right views to exemplify the characteristics of the Sadduccees and Pharisees of the Bible. The hail themselves to be such high and might Christians, which mean to be “Christ-like”. The Pharisees and Sadducees of the Bible, talked a great deal of righteousness and “acted” righteous before others, but in their hearts they were defiled.

    Leviticus 19:2b, states “Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy”. This is a commandment of God. However, because we are a very imperfect people; born and shaped in iniquity, God in his loving mercy sent Jesus to reconcile us back to him. Christ-like means to exhibit the character of Christ; who was compassionate, loving and understanding, yet stood for what was right without condemning those with a heart to do right, not just be right.

    I think it is foolish to believe that by dictating to teenagers to abstain from sex and expect them to oblige. We not only have to teach them in the homes, but in the public arena the reality of unprotected sex, teen-pregnancy, Sexually Transmitted Diseases and the benefits of abstinence. We intervene in many of the choices our children make, sharing the pros and cons of their choice, why not sex. It is not taboo, and if we allow the to be miseducated by the media, music, and other influential means, then why can’t we work with the school system and other organization, including our churches to “train up” our children.

  • kuntakinte

    working mom, why should I, as the taxpayer, have to pay for your childcare?

  • Betty

    I received an email link to a statement on Youtube about Kevin, an African American who claims to be the father of Bristol Palin’s unborn child, only the Huffington Report has picked it up. Why is there a coverup? I can say the same about the excellent article Whoopi Goldberg wrote about Sarah Palin. After watching the CNN special about Palin, it put all of my suspicions to rest about who she really is and who she represents. There is definately a double standard in this election.

  • Boiling in Arizona

    I was watching John McCain speaking today in Orlando. I just have one question, for both candidates. I/we already know what they both want to do. Can they tell me exactly how they are going to do what the want to do. I know we have to fix all these issues, but that does not tell me a thing. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT MR. MCCAIN IS GOING TO DO BESIDES RUN HIS MOUTH. I have lived here in Arizona for 16 plus years. I have asked this question many, many, many time to a lot of people. What has he done for the state of Arizona? NOTHING to date as far as I can tell. Help me out here. We need more then talk, for 26 years he has been in congress, SOMEONE, ANYONE, TELL ME WHAT HE HAS DONE!!!

  • Boiling in Arizona

    Gary, you make some good points. But guess what? Black people will vote for Obama because he is black. Just like white people will vote for McCain because he is white and others will vote for McCain because she is famale. Not everyone is going to vote on the issue. That is the reality of the world, race, color, gender all play into what we do on a daily bases. There is no way to get around it, that is why just like you, we all have an opinion. No matter what people say in the daily poles they will make there decison when the step into the voting booth or when they fill out the ballot at home. If you look at the big picture, you will have to ask yourself who will be able to get what they say they want done when they get into office. Rep and Dem will have to work as a team for anything to happen. As you can see that is not the case right now and that is why nothing is getting done in congress today. The constant fighting, what we as Americans need to do is get rid of of everyone in congress and start over with all new people who are willing to work for us today. We need someone in office that can bring everyone together working as a team to get anything done. We can talk about it all we want until that happens, then nothing will change anyway. That being said, I/you/we have to vote for the person that we feel best represents us, PERIOD!. There is a war on the middle class, and it clear. I have been to several other countries in my life time. I have seen first hand in those countries what happens when there is not middle class. You have really rich people and the rest are poor. Most of those countries are called third world. The US is heading that way, now we can be proactive and ensure we have the right people in office or we can be reactive, like we have been over the last 7 years. One person cannot do a thing but we all can change the world. But it will not get done everyone sitting on their butts waiting on government to make it happen. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, talk is cheap. Here is something to think about. This guy was walking down the street and he hears this dog barking like he was in pain, as the man gets closer it gets louder. He finally gets the house of the dog and their is an old man on the porch in a rocking chair. The man that was walking downt the street asks the man in the rocking chair, whats wrong with the dog. The man say, he is laying on an nail. The man ask, well why does he not move off the nail? The man in the chair says, it hurts him enough to cry out but not enough to move off the nail. Well we are that dog. We bitch and moan about everything but we don’t move. Well I think its hurting enough for us to move now. SO LETS MOVE!!!!!!

  • http://all Just me

    Hey there Roland, I hope all is well with you. I really don’t care about Palins Daughter, I can give 2 cents….. But what I feel needs to come out is why this great land is sitting on their azzes and doing nothing to get B.Obama into office. There is no way J. Mcain should be right there next to Obama, no way. Palin is running for VP…… That’s it, but forget that, this is not about her and we make it about her everyday… We need to focus on him winning ( Obama )….., we need to fight back with fire, we need to put it out there that if he was white, he would be ahead 80 – 20 or even more than that. H Cliton needs to fight and deal with Palin, let her knock her on her azz……. This is what we need in order to win. We need to come out and tell it like it is….. I’m middle class brother, and things are so hard for me right now. If it wasn’t for my kids, I would end my life, now that’s hard…. I know I’m not the only man or woman feeling this way. Oh, and so what if the rich pay more taxes so f’ing what…. THEY WILL STILL BE F’IN RICH….. What, they will only drive or own 10 cars instead of 11 …lol…lol….. Come on now, we ( the middle class ) made them rich …lol…lol… That’s the funny part, we made them rich. So why not give back????????? Why not help out others. I’m so far from being rich and I give back everyday, I don’t miss one single day my brother, not one. So, if I can do it so can they, and I’m BROKE …..LOL…… Come on man, let’s get this done. I take my hat off to Obama, because if it was me I would say F it and get back to my family…. You all don’t wanna vote for me because I’m BLACK & WHITE Mixed ??????? Then I’ll just let He!! take over.. This man really wants to help us all, him & J Biden, both of them really want the best for this great land…. We also need Bill Cliton to come out and fight……… HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, before it’s to late……

  • RichardinKC

    Amen Roland! “We desperately need comprehensive sex education that incorporates all of these issues if we are to attack the problem. ” This not only goes for unplanned pregnancies but almost every issue that this great nation is confronted with. It seems to me that both candidates have ideas on fixing all the problems that we’re facing. Why are both sides so adamant in thinking that their way is the only way that will work? There are some resolutions they do agree on, which is definitely a start, but it seems to me, similar to your comprehensive unplanned pregnancy resolution, we could do the same with all resolutions. Which brings me to the other major issue that I have with all of the ideas that both candidates have to fixing the problems. Why do we have to wait for the next president to be elected? If it’s a good idea in four months, isn’t it a good idea now?

  • touch

    The Ballroom

    The Dance of The “Titans- in The Ballroom of American” … is closing, the ice carving has melted, and the table is strewn with the left overs, of a gluttons feast.. and the flies are gather over the table… and the drunkards.. who have consumed their own concoction, are led from the room.. and the mess.. is now being found in the foyer, and the parking lots are filled with pot holes, as the help can’t be paid, and the room can’t get cleaned.. and the stench of the rotted remains, litter the landscape.. The Titans are shows to be minions, who masqueraded as titans, who were simply minions walking on stilts.. with long silk pants, and one tripped and they all fall like dominoes..

    they partied so long, they never recognized the ballroom was crumbling and the paint on the ceiling was falling, while they thought it to be confetti, in celebration of themselves being spew about. now they see it’s the same asbestos, they refused before to remove, and they are now whining about cancerous infections.. and wanting to blame everything, for the removal expense they would not pay… and rebuked even the idea, that it should be removed in the first place..

    We as a nation.. spent a few trillion dollars, chasing a 15 cent criminal… and he’s still running, and we have borrowed from the world, to claim.. “we can’t find him”.. while we occupy a land… only months ago, claiming we’d not leave, and we have to win… “while at the same times saying .. It’s for the people of Iraq”.. well.. how do you “win an occupations of a soverign nation”.. and what is there to win… it already belongs to the people who live there. and they are not accepting colonization, nor are they accepting puppet governmental structure.. and they will not accept Christianity to become the dominator over their Islamic roots.. they may have been thankful.. to have a dictator removed.. but then was it the nature of dictator needed, to maintain civil order, among factions who are by their differences orderless in principal because they aspire to different concept within belief. You can’t fight that with a bullet, nor can a bomb destoy that.. it’s ideological realism, that has many supporting cast.. by and thru it’s neighboring countries.. and they pump the fuel that keeps the world moving, so they have a cash flow that moves and grows as long as the world is in motion by the mechanical creations of man…

    “Sun Tzu” .. warned based on his study of history, even hundreds of years ago.. the nature of war, and the pitfalls of the war makers.. and all was ignored, and considered nothing more than a novel of Ancient people who happen to be Chinese… but reality, shows now… ” who ‘s not got the money”, and who now, can put their people to work.. and who now is uplifting their nations, and has in the things they build.. more advances uses of the technology which exist..

    We stand here claiming to be the most advanced nation… but we can’t get our internet system transitions to Ipv6, and we are working on Ipv4, that is two generations behind the standards which provide the ability to have a effecient system.. and then we run it thru phone lines that are 80 years old, when fiber optics has been around for nearly 2 decades.. but all the money ripped off by the Titans, could have rebuilt that network, and brought our electricity grid up to the 21 st century standards.. but we have a Pre-world war 11.. electrical grid.. that if the wind blows, the lights go out..

    We are flying Airplanes with 1960 set ups, that have a video monitor placed in them.. we can’t even get a 25 year old technology of providing in flight computing systems within the planes.. when it could have been done 15 years ago.. with on board servers.. and a on board data storage system, that could have programs installed.. where any softwares that business and society uses could have been isolated and utilized on board… and a managed IP system set up, to run thru a system, that manage internet access and filtering to in flight travel.. but even sadder than that.. we have corporations that can’t even see people as people and still have levels and processes that have factions of elevated segregation process still in place and people in place who support and carry on such a mindset in covert means…

    and Yet..people won’t stop and see… How did Rome Fall… it was a process.. not a action of a moment.. it fell in and thru a process.. no un-similar to what we live within today.. as America is far from what it was, and further from being again what it once was… the rest of the world will not dumb down, to allow it to regain it’s footing.. it squandered its lead.. thru arrogance and resistance to change… and think .. itself above all others and beyond reproach..

    It tried to ride on yesterdays glory, and not let go of yesterdays system that created false glory.. by the shams and the use and abuse of others, and then the rip and strip.. snatch and grab.. and glorify one’s self beyond the stature of even being mortal… and now .. mortality is .. facing it square in the face..while at the same time.. the plants have withered, the flowers are now shrubs, and the rose bushes have died, and the grass as over taken the gardens… as they exist the ball room…. and find the nation in squalor.. as they drive Downtown Main-Street.. which now, is lined with closed shops and the street now has barricades which create a dead-end at Wal-Mart.. and the people run about buying shiny plastic and cardboard pressed to appear like wood.. screaming they finally are able to afford a dining room table and a plastic lamp.. to light the room.. while they eat the TV dinner.. made from the spoils and left over.. after the main trimming have been carved away… so they cover it with salt and sodium.. mixed in oil.. to give it a taste… and tell people they are nourished.. while their body shows blotches and blisters.. from the infections that have no cure… from meats.. they haul around with fork lifts, because the animals can’t even walk to the slaughter room, because the hormones they were fed to fatten them up, did not let their bodies develop nor their brains grows to process what it was fed..

    The New Owners.. from Foreign Lands.. Gather at the gates.. waiting for The Fire Sale… to capture the spoils.. and claim their stake…

    ” The Ballroom is now up for Auction”

    shall we learn, how better and how best to rebuild the ballroom, and not constrict it to a few, but build it to benefit all
    how now.. is it not the time.. to find equality, and meet the equilibrium of justice for all
    and began now.. before the final sale.. to make anew what we respected so little when it was once new..

    ‘series I

  • touch

    “Pimps at The Helm”

    ( what a spectacle )

    another “mini book’ in the “life series”

    “World Class Ignorance”

    ( what a spectacle )

    ” the nations is falling apart…and the news is filled with women.. claiming they are jumping party.. for the sake of “a woman candidate” when they are even arrogant enough to state.. that their move is not about the issues, it more about seeing a woman..

    goodness… I hope the world is watching.. The ignorance in this nation is astounding..

    the country is falling apart.. and people are posturing to cast a vote based on vanity.. of vain assocciation… and they are so unaware of the issues, the nation and anything beyond.. seeking .. to gather for the sake of “vain associative motivations”

    this country.. may never be respected again.. as being driven by intellect… the ignorances are far too profound.. to be washed away as a situation mistake.. it’s proving itself to be the process , order and pattern…

    we have a news media that acts like a non stop circus.. and ego maniac and vanity chasers.. that can’t see beyond the glare of vanity… to know..

    the Issues .. should be the point of matter.. ” the financial instutitions have IMPLODED, a crazy war rages, and there is no Industry, and the homes of the people, belong to foreign paper holders..

    MAYBE NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION.. WHILE ALL THEY TALK ABOUT IS WHAT WHITE WOMEN VOTERS ARE DOING, AS IF THE NATIONS IS MADE UP OF “only” WHITE WOMEN… AND OTHER WOMEN DON’T MATTER OF OTHER NATIONALITIES.. and they are not even discuss, mentioned nor considered..
    AND THEY ARE PREACHING .. “WHITE WOMEN VOTERS THIS AND THAT… AND THEY HAVE NOT EVEN PAYED ATTENTION..

    THE NATION JUST LOST… A TRILLION DOLLARS IN TWO DAYS, AND THAT’S JUST IN THIS COUNTRY… IN TWO DAYS, THE GLOBAL ECONOMIES HAVE PROBABLY JUST BE WIPED CLEAN OF MAYBE UP TO 4 TRILLION DOLLARS. BUT ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS.. “WHITE WOMEN VOTERS”…

    so maybe now they have it so screwed up, the only thing they can think to do is set up the women .. to be the scape goat for what the men have done for the last 100 years… and now he tosses the women to the dogs… and push her as the new fall guy.. when they make again the wrong choices..

    so it’s again it’s back to .. “Pimp the Woman” when all else fails

    BUT THAT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE or seem to any to be UNLIKELY, BECAUSE FOR 350 YEARS OR MORE, THE WHITE MALES WHO RUN THE COUNTRY, DID NOT EVEN CONSIDER THE WOMAN AS A PERSON.. ENOUGH TO GIVE HER A VOTE, OR LET HER WORK, OR ANYTHING… SO HOW COULD THE SYSTEM .. HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT .. TOSSING UP AND SETTING HER UP TO BE THE SCAPE GOAT…

    THE SYSTEMS THAT PERMEATE THE MINDSET OF HOW A NATION GROOMED ITSELF … MAY NOT HAVE FOUND IT’S LOWEST POINT “YET”… WHAT NEXT WILL IT FORSAKE…

    they use the woman on the VP ticket, for vote getting, and then they will, when the circus games are over… push her to the back and tell her again, to sit down and shut up.. if he needs coffee or something he will tell her when to bring it… But right now she is the only thing he can use to spur up enough interest to get people to take a second to listen to his war story and tough talk…

    when we as a nation, need wisdom, and sound mind policies, not some rebel who preaches as if he will now ” all of a sudden” shake up his 26 year long buddy network.. which is highly unlikely.. because if that was the cast.. it would have been done of the past 26 years.. and it was not.. If the Keating 5 criminal acts does not tell a nation something, and they just choose another clone for what we already have… and they
    pimp the woman.. as has always been done..

    people don’t pay attention, the man fought like hell about something simple as a MLK Day, which was not even a paid Holiday, he fought to keep it out of Arizona.. UNTIL it was beneficial for him in his primary run, to pretend that now, he’s all for it and supports it.. and had nerves enough to show up, at a rally in the rain.. and then stand before the mass public.. and be so mindless to have a black man holding a unbrella over his head, while speaking at a rally to support fallen black civil right leaders, who fought against the abuses of whites using black for their gain…. and his level of insensitivity was so vast, he had the audacity.. to stand there .. with a black man holding the umbrella so he does not get wet.. now .. what kind of image is that.. to project at a rally with such a basis of premise …

    now .. if you don’t yet see how ignorance prevails… keep watching..

    Now if that is not enough, it’s the level lower, they could not let this woman live her life, and work to feel proud of her achievement within a low population density state… and raise her family…

    they stooped so low, to PURPOSELY AND BY MALICE IN THEIR MOTIVES, seek out a woman, who has multiple kids, a special needs kid, and a pregnant daughter…
    AND NOW THEY PARADE HER AROUND, with a “praise the Pimp speech” as the only thing she is allowed to say… and she has to push it across as .. a jokester, seeking a laugh as if this is about pun and fun..
    They should be ashame to even be in the Race, using and abusing a woman to that degree.. when she was perfectly content in a role that allowed her to see her family, at night, and she could deal with her special needs kids, and deal with the nature of her young daughter being pregnant,

    all the Old pimp.. could see… was.. Gee, MY Friends, I’m really gonna screw you over this time, I got you duped on the ropes… and he’s make wrongful use of a woman, trying to make her state work, and he can only seek ways to make his ” 3 legged one trick pony act ” become revived, so it’s .. boys ,, go out get me a woman with a family bigger than the standard 3 kids and I want one of the kids pregnant, and one of the kids to be with special needs..

    I don’t like them stooping so low.. and abusing and mis-using this woman in this way, and misleading a nations of people with yet another malice motive act..

    No problem with a woman in the race.. but not by and for the motives that McCain did this, and he did it with disregard for this woman.. and I think now she knows it, because when ever they have to embrace on stage, she can’t get away form the geezer quick enough, and she refuses to look him in the face before or after the embrace.. I bet if she could, she’d kick his old ass.. now that she has figured out the circus act he has stuck her in.. and took her out of an arena, where she had a life process more manageable.. and could deal with the situation within her life with more focus on her family…

    they run, when the Front runner can’t even draw a crowd,without trying to “pimp the woman”.. for his own gain…and playing on the simplicity of s society that is primed for another delusions, through a bunch of people running, talking about, how the womans glasses make a fashion statement.. when her running mate can’t figure out from day to day what his stand is.. on anything.. and has record after record of stating he knows nothing about the economy, and it’s proved in is continual mis-statements about everything from regulations and now trying to avoid admitting that he voted his career.. to deny any regulations… even after the Keating 5, where they ripped off a nation.. and crashed a company and sent the economy into a tail spin of downward spiral.. and set a format and process of gluttony.. in the upper offices of corporate America..

    We are becoming the laughing stock of the globe… by fools and madness… or maybe we have always been such over the past decade.. and now it’s becoming into clear focus with a magnifying glass showing the cracks , seams and the delusions of glue, that holds it together.. and upon close inspection it’s nothing more than flour and water, .. appearing and being pushed as being glue.

    “Pimps at the Helm”

  • touch

    “Pauper in Paradise”

    here’s some more to the picture … fill in the blanks

    When the previous Administrations were in the office, they allowed as much rip off in ways as well.. that was the time of Enron and Global Crossing, that was the time when “Outsource became a buzz word in american”.. the “Dot coms” traded at 300% above their ability to earn.. the country was flush with foreign goods, mostly South Korean goods, then it went to Taiwan Goods, and mini mall sprang up all over the place, and every one of them was full of Korean goods, then Taiwan Good, and then China took over. american companies were running fast for the border, trying to cash in.. never thinking if they sell out the corporations, who’s going to have money to buy this imported stuff.. they did not care .. they just wanted the money quick..stuff was moving in so fast and so many were raking in money, to sell cheap goods in min mall.. they open up NAFTA to get more stuff in quicker, without anyone paying to bring it in.. This was GB1 and the Clintons, and by the time the Clintons left office, they had a surplus, but what they did not tell anyone is , it was money that was already earmarked to be spent, so there was actually a real deficit.. and by the time Bush got to go over the records and discovered this, he was left to do nothing but try and start scrambling, trying to figure out what the hell of a mess it was… So he figured OK… give the companies a tax break, so they won’t run to the border, and deregulate things and let them build the economy.. ( he did not count on them being so greedy, that was his naive point.. they ripped and robbed like mad hungry men at a pig roast)… By the end of his first year.. the mess was unfolding to show the result of the shipped away job from the previous anministration, the Korean goods, at become to cost more, and then the Chinese flooded the markets thru NAFTA and ran the rest of American business out of the country.. So he tried another tax cut to the business to hope they see the light.. (they did not, they ripped and robbed even more, and took advantage of deregulations)… then came the Terrorist attack,… Bush probably went to Saddam, and said.. Hey good ole buddy, I need to park some planes and take here, while I go to Afganastan, and kick this SOB ass… and Saddam probably said no… and Bush reminded him of how they had worked together before, and Saddam said no again and talked a little crap with it, So Bush finally got mad, told him to get his s)it and get out .. they would not help him anymore and if he did not leave Saudia Arabia and the other’s would run him out, because he’d no longer cover his back side..so when that happened, Bush figured OK.. we will run you out, then we will set up here, and go kick the terrorist butt, and turn the country over to more congenial factions of Iran.. but before that could happen.. Saudia Arabia, Iran and Syria figued they’d rally their cousins, in Iraq, to claim stuff and stake their claims.. and they would divvy up the oil money.. but neither of them wanted the other to have it so Saudia fund one faction, Syria funds another and Iran funds another, and they created civil war.. so now Bush has to deal with that mess, and can’t just leave the mess to crumble.. while now.. the US economy is faltering because the greed masters are stealing like the valut door has been left open.. while the US is trying to fix this situation over there.. and in the middle of all the chaos, the Chinese put $50 on the table as the bench price for oil.. and the Arabs saw the Chinese had plenty money, so they figure hell .. if they pay $50 with no question.. they will pay $150..so the oil went up, and the Saudia new best buddy became the Chinese in Oil and other OPEC nations got in on the grab fest..

    so Bush is thinking, WTF !!!! then congress comes up with stuff.. and he’s like.. Damn!!! what is this.. hell no… VETO…and then they did the tally sheet and found out in the mess, that the debt is crazy and the greedy Bastards in the companies had stole everything and created a shell game on wall street.. so by this time.. everything is a mess.. and Bush figures.. WTF… Let me try to stimulate the economy till I can get out of dodge… these SOB have gone crazy… so now, he’s waiting on the moving company to come and pick up his stuff.

    Dumb ass McCain.. thinks now he will get to be commander in Chief, since he could not top dad and grand dad and become and Admirable, he wants to top both of them by being president.. so he can blow up some stuff and hope he gets to stand on a Navy ship and claim victory.. and get his war hero status ratcheted up a notch… McCain is so dumb, he don’t know who’s fighting… he just want to blow up something, and get his Medal of Honor as President, so he can tell his family, see.. I told you… I’d top dad and Grand dad.. so his thing, is to say what ever it popular to say this week, or next week.. and change his slogan to pursue his goal of .. topping dad and grand dad, while pimping a woman, to get the attention on him… he’s just simply an Old pimp, who left his broke wife in early years after she had an accident and did not have any money.. and went out and snagged him a wealth beer distributors daughter and pumped her up with babies.. now she probably can’t stand his old ass.. is only trying to save face by showing up with him .. while he pursue an option to try and outshine his dad and grand-dad.. while he plays on the woman.. with the game of.. get one who has kid, make sure she has a special needs kind, and make sure she had a young pregnant daughter.. and then she can get crowds from 4 different sympathy sectors of the nations… and then kick her to the curb, and relegated her to the back rooms out of sight and out of mind.. while he gloats in his ego glory… damn the country.. he’s the king in his family.. he topped dad and grand dad’s achievements.. of being in charge… other than that.. he don’t give a damn… he showed that in his convent.. which was all about .. “glorify the war hero”…. they still don’t have a message, beyond.. “I’m a bad ass, I’m going to share up some s_it” and my family will know, that I’m tougher than dad and grand dad… I’m the damn hero in this family..

    that’s all he cares about… and that’s all he has cared about..

    he said it when he said.. hell no, I be damn if I will help out the American citizen keep their home, and I be damn if there will be any government program to help them do anything… get yo ass out there and suck dirt.. I’m the damn king here..

    “Pauper in Paradise”

  • touch

    WHAT THE HELL IS “HILLARY AND BILL’ ” PROBLEM

    they are sitting on they are sitting on their fat butts.. Nobody told her to run as if she thought she was ENTITLED to win… not what she lost.. she is sitting on her butt.. yet want to claim she is so for the party.. Her actions shows that she is and was and will be only for herself..

    she should have been all over the Media countering this mad circus around Sarah… But Hillary is not that interested in seeing Obama win… I can her the lackluster nature of her voice.. She is nothing more than another vindictive self consumed delusion pusher… she started this mess about “white women voters’… as if there is no Black women, and there is No Asian women and NO Latin and other women…

    She is a bitter old self patronizing ego maniac… She thinks she will sit on her Ass and get 2012.. Nobody is giving her a damn thing.. and if people pay attention.. to her whole actions after this primary.. she shows that she is nothing but for Hillary… Obama did the right thing not to pick her, she would have been doing nothing but trying to figure a way to get rid of him..

    She and Bill Clinton are for the Clintons, and to hell with anyone and anything else. She think she can run in a campaign and sling mud, and then run covering in the corner, talking about ” give me a pass, I’m a woman”" Well don’t get your ass in anything that you can’t stand equally with the men and take your heat just like everyone else.. and now she is sitting around on her arrogant ass sulking and acting like what we least need in any office ….

    people better pay attention.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • kevin lynch

    Roland Martin is a racist!! The black American society has showed America that they will vote their skin color over the issues. I am a white american who is ashamed of Obama the fraud!! The rev wright is a putrid racist!!! The KKK and Rev wright hold the same views just through a different colored glass!! Racism comes from both races. Unfortunately black america has been fooled by Obama who has exploited them!!
    Shame on you Roland. You bac k Obama due to allegiance of skin color! I would beat you in a debate any day! You are a racist!!! Your Garb that you wore and the comments of support that you gave rev wright during his hate speach will be exposed and rightfully so. We will not allow you and your racist bunch access to our white house. You exploir race constantly! I am not a racist and I am comfortable with that; it is obviouse that you support barrack due to skin color; shame on you!!!!!!!
    As a democrat, I watched Hillary lose a primary that she actually won; if Obama was not black then Hillary would no doubt recieve atleast 60% of the black vote! She is a true American and she stands up for all of America; Black,white and all!!! As one America. Your America is a view of only black intrerest then you should create your own country and get the fuck out of ours where we believe in one united America! We will not allow rev wrights views stand; PERIOD!!! As white America knocked down the KKK views we will with the same energy knock down the RACIST VIEWS of rev wright and yours!!!!

  • Matt

    Roland –

    I can’t stand you any more. Please go away! You are dumbing down CNN to the point where I almost have to watch MSNBC, possibly the worst choice out there.

    Can’t you just stick to radio?

  • kuntakinte

    touch

    I’m sure, being black, you are an expert on entitlements.

    Cheers, bro!

  • touch

    kuntakinte Says: I’m sure you are too.. on “ear-marks” .. which strip entitlement programs, before they can be funded.

  • Kevin

    Roland you are right on point with this article. If this had been one of Michelle Obama’s daughters, the media would be very critical of the Obamas, and this election would be over before it started. Talk about double standards.

    To Gary, we must have been watching two different programs. None of the black guests said that they are voting for Obama, just because he is black. And for you to paint a broad brush on the black community that they are voting for Obama because he is black, shows the level of stupidity on your part, to based that judgement on a whole group of people. I would bet you that there are white folks that would vote against Barack Obama, based on his color, and not on the issues. Gary, you need to think before you speak.

  • Confused……..

    I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

    * If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you’re ‘exotic, different.’
    * Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

    * If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
    * Name your kids Willow , Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

    * Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
    * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

    * If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
    state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
    * If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

    * If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
    * If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian. And called your current wife a cunt. Oh and who is McCain’s minister?

    * If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
    * If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very responsible.

    * If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America ‘s.
    * If you’re husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

    OK, much clearer now.

    I have a better understanding of it now, how about you?

  • touch

    “Spain”

    Spain is a country once part of the European landmass above Africa. Some 6000 years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth, Spain became entangled in the tectonic dinner plate movement and now, according to John McCain, sits uneasily just below Texas. ( comment from blogger)

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    The one quote, fit all answer, of McCain”

    “My Friends”

    “I’m A War Veteran”
    “I’m here to shake up some stuff,.. Yea, yea yes, I know for 26 years I have not done a damn thing, but, My Friends,..

    I’m going to shake it up”..

    well.. there are many things are good in the economy”

    ” but My Friends,

    “I’m going to shake up Washington”

    while “people are frightened” during “very, very difficult” times, “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.”

    “My friends”…
    “I’m here to shake up some stuff

    Q: Are Americans better off than they were eight years ago?
    “My Friends”
    “I’m here to shake up some stuff

    A: You could argue that Americans overall are better off, because we have had a pretty good prosperous time, with low unemployment and low inflation and a lot of good things have happened. A lot of jobs have been created. But let’s have some straight talk. Things are tough right now. Americans are uncertain about this housing crisis. Americans are uncertain about the economy, as we see the stock market bounce up and down. But I think what we’re trying to do to fix this economy is important. We’ve got to address the subprime housing problem. We need to make the Bush tax cuts permanent, which I voted for twice to do so. I think we need to eliminate the alternate minimum tax.

    “My Friends”
    “I’m here to shake up some stuff
    A: I think we are better off overall if you look at the entire eight-year period, when you look at the millions of jobs that have been created, the improvement in the economy, et

    “the victory in Iraq is in sight”

    “My Friends”
    “I’m here to shake up some stuff

    My Friends, I want America to know… ” I’m a Veteran”… didn’t you see my movie??? “My Friends”, “I showed you during the convention about a veteran”, I’m a veteran…

    “My Friends”

    ( “give me a couple minutes, to stop my hand from shaking” , now what did you say again… ?? Oh yea…. “My Friends” ,”I’m here to shake up some stuff

    Is this the situation of America you want for 4 years..

    McCan.. says in so many words.. He don’t give a damn about the home owner, and he don’t care about the average person getting a tax break.. and he could care less about social program and he would love to “sell” social security” to his buddies… I’m sure he will do another “Keating 5, like they did with the Saving and Loan… and rip it good… by 2012 Social Security would be ripped and stripped.. any public program that helps people would be canceled, and he’d increase the contribution to Israel by 200%… probably would threaten to “hang the leader of Iraq” if they don’t let him build bases there… and he’d get his .. repeater, to repeat the same message over for not just 2 weeks but for 4 years..

    His VP can draw and crowed and he says she is a good speaker, Obama draws a crowd and they say he’s an elitist… because “by goodness.. there is not suppose to be a black person who can speak and present himself with diginty.. according to the Republican delusions..

    Then the Insult to himself get’s up and speak… Liberman… he could not win anything in the house of Democrats, so he went Independent, and realized he ain’t crap.. so he ran to the Republican convention… and exemplified himself as being a for sure opportunity, solely for the self interest of himself… he’ll ride any horse he can find already with a saddle on it.. Fred Thompson gets up and speak like he just got a new role on a TV series .. mostly all he said was .. “give the POW a Oscar.. cause his arrogance got him shot down and locked up… and finally he woke up and found out he was not invincible and he did not “own the Navy”.. and reality shock.. stunned him.. till he found out.. he was just another solider.. and that was not going to work.. so he came home cheated on his wife and divorced her when she got hurt, and chased the little rich girl… and made babies … and rode her money like the new horse in town.. and now he knows he won’t ever be an Admiral.. so he wants to top Dad and Granddad..so he figure if he can become president, he will be the family hero.. other wise he has to go home and accept that he’s nothing but .. now an “Old hot head”… shooting from the hip… claiming to be a gunslinger..

    After Palin banged her husbands business partner, she Joined the PTA.. trying to become a responsible parent.. and fast talked her way up the ladder…. bikini clad and all..

    Hillary.. sitting in shock, she can’t believe that she lost to a black man.. and she’s been so in shock she could not even accept the American voters choice of not choosing her, so she came up with her gimmick.. of “white women voters”.. and sought to separate the party.. Now she will only campaign just enough to save face… and hope the party don’t recognize that she ain’t doing a damn thing.. and Bill is pissed off.. that his wife did not get her ego stroked.. and the entitlement given to her as they expected.. so they both sit on the side line.. measuring their words to insure they don’t give Obama a plug if they can by any means avoid doing so..

    Yep… reality is painting the real picture …

  • Kevin Facey

    I definitely agree that there needs to be something done to when it comes to the issue of teen pregnancy. It is not just a black problem, or a white problem. It is an American problem. I know of a couple of young women in my family that had babies out of wedlock. And you can tell they had to go thru some struggles. Anyway, while I still believe that abstience (sp?) should be taught, there are parents that do not talk to their children about sex. If the parents do not talk to their children, then who will?

    I know that one day when I have children, I would love for my children to wait till they are married before they have sex. However, I know that there will be some children that will not wait to get married to have sex with their mates, so we have to tell them, that if they are going to have sex, we need to tell them to protect themselves from getting pregnant.

    As for Gary, I know that this blog probably deleted the last one that I did, but for Gary to say that black people are only voting for Obama because he is black, is wrong headed. Were there women during the Democratic primaries that voted for Sen. Clinton because she was a woman? Or were they voting for her because they felt that she was the best candidate.

    For me, as a black man, I am intelligent enough to know that I am voting for Obama, based on the fact that he is the best candidate, though him being black is appealing.

  • touch

    “Callous Minds”

    Callous Minds, don’t address the political issues.. they don’t address the natural disaster issues, they don’t address the economic issues, they don’t address any issue… other than their own personal agenda of their self encircled world…

    and they never understand their callousness .. nor do they understand how their uninvolved nature, impacts the world.. and the world will be impacted by their non interest in what matter that affect the world, and what matters which bring effect upon their lives… which affects their living.

    Abstaining.. does not make it better, you only contribute to the callous nature of .. continuing to support the break down process in all lands.. by and thru the silence of individuals.
    Nor does casting a vote, you know won’t meet with the tally of who’s elected… “why waste your vote”… when you know, it’s tossed to “a non factor” .. that is.. simply a “callous mind, making a callous choice, for the appeasming self gratification of saying they voted”.. but they voted, simply to send their vote into the abyss.. of a void.

    Think…. and consider, what matters.. and if you feel .. you matter.. “If you Do.. among the leading choices, then those are your areas of choice, which will make the difference, is whom is chosen, and what is chosen based on the Issues, each runner supports”..

    ( maybe the world needs, voter educations, and understanding what options that truly exist, and which options that will matter, in how your vote counts, based on if you feel, you matter, enough to make your vote count … equals – “THINKING” )

    Sitting around, thinking, everyone else will act.. and you will just ride the tide like a freeloader.. and then struggling to try and gain your footing, because you did not care to understand anything, nor did you care to address anything…

    and some are even raising children, and they sit with a callous mind, doing nothing, saying nothing,.. and many won’t even go out and vote… many won’t support the factions in their countries which build unison across continental borders…

    You may need to find out what is within the political climate of your lives and your surrounding.. and whom you can support, and what issues you can support.. and what is of a matter to your lives and the lives of your children.. or even you potential children..

    you know whom you are… and if you do nothing, say nothing and support nothing.. then … what do you expect.. other than to ride on what other’s have supported, and what other do support..

    if you vote on race.. then you are already missing the point of an Election… if you vote on Gender you are already missing the point of the election..

    Age matters.. because of the pressures of the job.. and the nature of who comes next, what comes next.. so there are elements that matter.. when many say they don’t… but you had best know what matters to have discerning considerations to consider..

    but either way… Vote on the Issues… but first Learn and come to terms with what the real Issue are… not the melodrama, in the Media.. but the Issue that Govern a Nation.. and Impact other Nations.

    Take time and consider what .. a Vote means.. and you may treasure it.. and become respectful of yourself and your enviornment and the world community.. enough to,

    “Cast Your Vote”..

  • touch

    WHEN BLACK PEOPLE VOTE

    Black people do not vote callously… when we vote.. we have thought about what impacts our lives.. we first had to fight for the right to vote.. and those of us who value that right, value the vote we cast..
    and we consider the issues.. not the personality.. but the issues..

    Society has for so long .. left out the black mind, and the person in many things.. and left out the program that push ahead to uplift people.. to provide the American Ideal.. and we among the many.. are well aware of what has been denied, held at a distance and what has been dangled before us..

    We are well aware of the slander that is pervasive which impacts our lives.. and we are well aware of what is promoted and supported that is a detriment to our lives and our progress not just as individuals but as people… and as a race of people.. but also how that disparages the nation of America and skew it’s stature…

    We are not callous voters…

    We need not get lost in melodrama.. nor the 15 minute circus acts of the Media.. we need to keep our focus on the Issues.. and stand behind the Issues…

    And the matter is… go to your friend.. go to your associates.. and go to any congregation you can find.. and seek out people.. and push them to consider their right.. to Vote, and help them understand their need to Vote… and help them understand how to invest in their civic pride.. thru their vote.

    We are not .. a Callous People… nor shall we be .. kept to such confinement by any who would seek to diminish our stature of person or individual being…

    Stand up… and count that you may be counted.. in what matters.. to your lives and the life of a Nation.

  • touch

    The McCain Followers…

    whats showing is that people are far less astute as the image have tried to push… and the world watches… but they too have to watch themselves, because they are not much different in the depth of the matter… and people live like sheep… in the many places of the world.. and find that .. it’s the same game, with a different name, country to country and continent after continent..

    and the silliness of people becomes more a matter, than not a matter, and it’s cycled 24/7.. by pundits .. seeking drama.. and the sheep line up .. to have their fur trimmed.. and always it’s just before the winter’s cold.. they are shave bare… and sent back out to pasture.. and they huddle together.. hoping to warm each other.. while they stand in the middle of a barren field.. waiting on the hay truck.. hoping it will arrive today… some fall under the winters chill.. and they step over the fallen ones and move about… not knowing which one is next..

    As with this nation.. some are blind by choice, and some are blind because they are unaware.. some are blind by their own folly of self delusion.. and some are blind, because they can only see themselves.

    the Nations is exposed for what it presents.. shysters and scammers and rip off artist.. playing shell games and a three card monte.. and now the world sees them for what they are… and how they are… being as a leopard, that is truly unable to change it’s spots..

    people believe the media because they bought the delusion.. people believe what they know has failed.. because they can’t give up their delusion to choose what is different, nor a path that may take them to a better way of life and a honest way of living..

    they follow the illusion of a hero.. based on false things, and foolish praise..

    when the true Hero’s are the people who struggle to raise a family, and teach their children how to respect others, and to respect themselves enough to learn how to respect other..

    We are so much so a country that has tried to dress yesterday in a different costume.. while playing the same games it has always played, and following the same script, with different phrasing, to say the same thing.. with a forked tongue and a twisted mouth… again.. as before.. they chose a foolish man, to lead, and chose him again.. after he lead down the wrong path.. and they stand with eager eyes to choose again.. his followers .. who switch costumes, and change the phrasing but keeps the same meaning… and it’s always the same… ” screw the people” and glorify the self.. and the followers are many… seeking to recreate yesterday.. and dress it in a different costume and call it something it is not.. and the details show.. it’s just more of the same… war masters, and people rippers and strippers.. and any lie will suffice.. and another roll of the dice.. and the suckers bet.. is laid, while the people get played.. and the pony up… with a smile… to be ripped .. again… while they buy the lie… and call it, a slice of the American Pie.

    “The Republican Delusion”‘

  • touch

    “another one bites the dust”, Morgan Stanley.. sells 20% to Mitsubishi … the Beer makers is gone, and China, Japan, Canada, and the Nordic Regional countries, owns a greater % of the rest of it..

    “Fire Sale”

    The “good ole boys”.. finally ripped it good, and sold everything they could get their hands on, and made shell games of everything they could not get their hands on..

    they rode it like a broken down horse, until it’s hoofs were frayed and it’s backbone swayed, till it’s belly scrapped the ground…
    and all the while they sit atop it.. like a warrior straight out a a battle, when the battle ended 50 years ago… and they paraded about.. as if they were still the victors of a world war. never paying attention.. the war had long ended, and the glory of the parade was only meant to last for a day.. and they did the ticker tape parade for 50 years… and now the streets are littered with confetti.. and when the wind blows it away.. they find the streets filled with pot holes.. and the store fronts.. have “gone out of business ” signs all up and down the street… and they traded companies that had no foundation, and no product.. but they had desktops full of paper.. with a stamp and a seal… they played it, making deals with each other.. creating delusions that wealth backed the front.. and the back overcame the front.. and there was nothing left in-between…and the paper.. crumbled into dust and blew away in the wind..

    For years before they learned so little.. maybe nothing at all.. as they left spread across the landscape of the Texas desert lands.. steel icon’s of days of old, when they pumped black gold, thinking it would never end.. they drove battle ships and tanks and called them automobiles.. they built homes bigger than hospitals.. and found they valued everything.. above and beyond what is the basic human individual… and now.. time shows again.. the folly… and shows again the delusion.. to be hollow.. and shows again.. the same pattern they follow..

    And this time… the time of all times.. it’s now.. a “Fire Sale”.. and the landscape of a nations goes on the auction block.. never to be again what it was.. and now.. owned by those it once thought to be lesser than themselves, while they gloated on thinking themselves above all others.. and now.. it is those others who have bought up and divvy up the spoils, left over from the “good ole boys”.. squalor and glutton of self consumed rip and gloat, rob and steal, scheme and deceive.. and wade thru the muddy madness.. of their ego’s ride..

    NO more … the houses made of gold, nor the hillside retreats, no more .. the greed and mis-deeds will again.. get their pathway to delude and intrude..
    News makers flapping lips, and crashing lives, for the dollars from the pill pushers and quacks, dressed for media saturation.. and now.. the reality is faced… of a nation in demise… and not knowing what way to turn.. while they push and stop for another game player.. as if they have amnesia, to forget the failure of the Saving and Loan, which was but another showing of what is happing today.. more blind today, and forget of Enron, and Global Brossing, and the Keating 5 and their gang…. they felt.. what the heck.. we fleeced them once, why not again.. and again.. and they now find .. “them” turn out to be the same ones who created the game… and they find reality showing.. it is themselves they screwed… and the people of a nation they deceived..

    and now.. None across the world , wants to believe in any of them .. so the BEGINS..

    none can remember the electrical rip off of the 90′s.. when power games were played.. and they chose to let win, one man who was within the core of the gambit .. and he proceeded to take down a nation.. and now just before the Fire Sale, is under way… the grey haired tricksters.. again.. seeks to delude and mislead.. with a six shooter on his side.. hoping to get one more chance to become a war hero once again.. seeking his own war.. at the price of anything.. that he may again pursue his glory days.. he can’t fight the nats off his own ass, but he will send young men to battle when there’s nothing to win and nothing to gain… while he issue his threat and tough talk.. and the world looks at him with laugher at the folly of a old man.. who is from a time before.. with a bugle in his mouth.. and veterans of foreign wars, crowing around.. seeking one more rally around the hill top.. hoping someone will loan them enough to buy another tank.. and a bag up bullet… until they can.. get the last of a nation.. sold.. in the “Fire Sale” of America.. for the sake of wild men and gunslingers.. seeking the western ways of yester-years.. unaware there are not Indians to slaughter.. and now will lay down and roll over.. and no buffalo.. to wipe out.. to starve them into surrender.. and the wooden forts will not longer protect the calvary.. who is battle weary, and cycled to fight beyond their bodies ability to even stand… and he blows taps on a rusty horn.. with a clogged tube… as he gasp for another breath… while the auctioneer… rattles off the next item on the list…. with the banners overhead.. blowing in the wind..

    We the individual citizen.. will have to listen, learn and change.. if America is to regain and maintain.. what is left. Either people wake up and change.. wake up and find out, that if no equality.. there is no quality… if their is no Justice, then there is no peace.. if there is nor respect of persons, then there is no Unity… and if Unity fails any further.. there will be no Nation… and the Fire Sale.. will leave nothing to Rebuild.

  • touch

    I talked about the old models of business structure .. built and based on the 1930, people who are today educated in the 90 and 70 and some in the 80′s … were taught models based on the 1930′s and the late 1940′s.. there was a massive amount of process that were infused with much of negative things in the 1960, when the nation fought the removal of segregations, and set up standards and practices to covertly continue segregationist mindset and policies.. and only by the force of Government put in place books, on human rights but did not push the policies, nor screen and re-screen those who held employ, from the times before…some companies have done good work.. on diversity training.. and some have not..

    when it comes to financial… the system has been ridden in the ground, and if you review the pre 1929 situation, the cycle shows many similarities. it was a period of out right extravagance, and the mindset that nothing could go wrong with the glory days of snatch and grab, shell games.. and wide margins.. where none could meet the calls.. when the bell rang… and they took it to the simulation even during those times of their version.. the short Sellers golden hey day…

    All models today continue to function on the old models.. and none dare stand an change.. nor move into a new day for a new way… ans the cycle continues, and the losses mount… for the Air travel Industry… when business suffers so does travel and the need to travel is far less .. surely domestically… it may heat up for the International.. as the new owners of american commodities and fixtures and corporations.. come from foreign lands.. to review their “fire sale”, purchases, and come and design the payment for the basement bargains of the American corporations, and their new and now ownership of much of the landscape.. and the selling has only taken on a different tone..

    None payed attention when China two years ago, told the US it would switch to a higher % of buying gold.. but what they were saying to the US was, you are borrowing from us.. and the trade with us, is billions to our good.. so why should we buy you paper… it’s backed by nothing, but we will buy only enough to insure trade remains and we can sell our goods to you.. and the US never again, said another word to China about changing it’s currency.. This country don’t listen, and they don’t gather what they hear… the haughitness of their self absorption is rattling far too loud… and again, China came back just in the past Month, and said.. You better fix your major Houses, because if they fall… we still want our money back… but this time.. the message was not only brought by China, it was supported by the Arabs, and every other Nation.. who had invested heavily in the US… and then the scramble took place.. to try and bail out these organizations.. not because it wanted them not to fail… but because Federal Borrowing has leveraged itself thru the prop up illusion, that these institutions were their backing.. and now.. on a paper situation.. there is nearly a transfer of ownership… of the Nation to a great extend.. because the same claim of bailing these places out.. is based on what??
    A nation.. that is supported by the backing of debt.. held by foreign nations. Our government is fiscally broke… we’ve carried a yearly deficit, now for 7 years, and we have borrowed more than we can repay in the next 20 years.. and we have no industry that can bail it out by creating economic prosperity… the shot callers and ballers.. now sit in far away lands… with the coffer’s filled with certificates of ownership… called IOU’s… it’s a whole different type of transfer of ownership… but nevertheless … a transfer..

    the economist say it in terms to sound nice.. “when they say:.. This is the biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen”… people don’t get what that means.

    it means everything flows to the new Owners… 23 billion surplus for China ON TRADE GOODS.. 100′S of Billions to Arab Nations on a monthly basis, and Nordic regions owning many of the corporations, Canada owning many of the production units, and the income from those flow to those nations.. not to the US..
    We are a nation that thought to nearly enslave other’s in it’s search for cheap labor.. and cheap goods.. and now.. we have become the slave we tried to make of other nations… and they are not the slave masters… We can’t make auto’s without Chinese products.. we can’t even produce food without Chinese products..
    Toyota and Nissan.. are standing only a pile of paperwork from having an massive chunk of General Motors and Ford Motors… and Chrysler.. may belong to Mitsubishi… and even the late runner Hyuandia .. now rivals even the top models made in the USA.. and it came in the 80′s as the cheapest auto on the market.. selling for 8k…

    We went from a Nation where business was based on substance .. to a nation of business that paid it’s corporate managing leaders.. thousands of dollars a minute… some even made to the tune near a $1000 a second.. and their corporate models .. did barely produce that much in their productions performance. We became a Nation.. who set a Global tone, of greed.. gluttony… for every benefit taken from workers, the executive suite paid themselves millions more upon millions, and set up a perk cycle..for themselves and then claimed a corporate loss.. and stood back and said.. “i just can’t understand why the people don’t work like slaves for nothing”… and became so adamant in that mindset.. they took even more from them and double their workload by laying off the help that was actually needed.. and they wonder .. why they can’t perform..

    It’s like long ago when the South Fell … the slave could not be made to work for free, and the plantation owners refused to pay them, and so they said.. “ph the black man is just lazy… when he was not lazy, why should he work for nothing, and why should he run to the lowest job, in the most disgusting situation as if someone has thrown a bone they sucked dry… and expect him to run to it with a smile… but what they did not ask was.. Why are not the white people rushing to those plantation job.. they make of the majority of the population.. but they knew.. none would come and work for nothing, nor would they even consider to smile about abone being thrown to them… so rather than pay a decent wage and gain the black workers.. who are now by law free men… there was no way the plantation owners would share in the gain… so instead they let the plantations fail.. and this cycle has been repeated so many time.. and now.. it’s American as a Nation.. that again does just what the plantations did…
    the plantations owners lived well, spent lavish and had a great hey day.. till one day they awaken and found out.. the plantation was gone, there was no source of income and the money shuffle had played out , because the interest earning.. would not match with the lavish lifestyle and the cash burn, it took for them to play master games any more… the cycle again played itself in the 1960…a1970′s.. the new slave force was sought from the far east and the Pacific rim, aso they sold off all the manufacturing and production.. too arrogant to share the wealth of a nations… because now.. that would mean.. minorities and women, would gain in it.. so they sought out.. the new slave forces of Asian… never realizing that eventually… they too would find out how to liberate themselves.. only in their liberation, they had money to liberate themselves… .. Now they are the New owners of the plantations.. and they selll the goods, and they hold the money.. But America still can’t see it’s their bias and intent not to share the development with the minorities in this nations, nor share anything.. with the women and minorities.. and that is the downfall of the nation… they said Unions were the greatest thing in the world.. until after the 1960′s when blacks and women could get in Unions, then they said.. Oh no !!! Hell NO… get rid of the Unions.. they are the worst thing in the world.. because they support equality and they have opened the doors for the minorities to be able to earn and live like us.. so away went the Unions… and away went the factors.. and the claim was… ” our goods was too expensive because of union labor, when the truth is.. the world bought them before … because they were well made and used the best materials.. and the other countries figured out how to get it, and it was prized products and the world did not mind paying for the quality.. so the US started making cheap good with foreign parts within them.. and the foreign people finally figured out.. “why should we pay top dollar for stuff we made and they put their logo on it and called it US products”.. so they just began to assemble it and put their name on it, and then… it was America now buying the foreign parts.. from construction equipment, to computers to tea pots, and now to the grains that make up the food in commercial food production.

    Again deep core racism has taken down a nation..and people remain unaware what is the driving force… none can think back to learn..

    It too 100 years from the freedom of slavery to get to the civil right act of 1964… 100years… and in between that time, they tried to create every thing imaginable to keep the “I’m better than you, and I’m entitled mindset alive”… from segregation to the Jim Crow policies.. to the set criteria and standards for the immediate denial by unreal pre-requisits.. when they knew everyone was not being held to the same standard.. and when the laws forced changes.. the companies moved off shore.. rather than to share the equity and prosperity of a nation… Racism killed the Southern Prosperity… of the Pre 1900… Greed killed the early 20th century revelers who bask in money changing games.. and then Segregation distressed the economy of the late 1950′s and Civil rights act of the 1960.. lead to the shipping away of the Jobs.. to avoid sharing….. and now.. in the 21st Century.. after the recycle of money changing games… here we are at another depressions of distressed economy… and the cycle just repeated itself… becase racism .. was how the country was made strong .. by stealing labor, and not sharing in the gains, and again.. this cycle continues.. and none seem to be aware… that principal of “live by the sword, die by the sword… is not much different than.. ” Rise up by racism, Fall by racism”.. and yet.. America is unwilling to fully learn.. we see it in the Campaign…

    On one had America says it’s Ivy League schools are the best.. and produce the Best.. but when a black leader runs for office.. they say.. Oh’ wait a minute.. he still is not good enough… let’s get a hot head.. who has been a screw up his whole life.. and let’s push him as a Hero… and the man himself said, he was an arrogant asshole.. up until the Vietnamese locked his butt up.. then he came back.. and treated his family like they were nothing, and walked away.. and each act… he comes back.. and say.. OH…. Ok… I learned.. and then on to the next screw up.. even the Keating 5, then he says Ok … I learned.. and the cycle goes over and over.. and his highest credential.. was shown in the convention.. they spent 4 days praising a old war veteran.. from a wrong way war, and showed films of a hot head.. who never would have been allowed to make so many screw up.. except his father and his fathers father was an Admiral.. so he played the “I’m untouchable game… and dumped his wife and claimed himself a rich girl… never again to even address any of the callousness.. and now today.. the Nation Highest office.. is being sought .. based on the credentials of being a POW… and a gun slinger… tough talking to other nations.. when the world has moved on.. and is seeking out diplomacy.. he is talking about whom he won’t talk to , and how and whom must submit.. to a broken nation.. as if he is the Capitan of the world… yet he has not kept up with the times, He can’t use the simplicity of e-mail.. yet we have cyber crime departments in the highest levels of a nations security, and here’s a man who can’t operate a basic computer.. talking about leading a nations.. where computers control the finances of the world. and yet again.. it’s claimed.. the black man, who is educated..and has ran the best campaign that has broken every record in the history book of elections and utilized the technology of today, and ran a staff that spans 50 States and has done so effectively.. had the highest voter turn out, the highest new voter registration.. and has the education to back his position.. but he is not good enough… and the opponent runs based on being a POW… when he can’t even remember who’s fighting whom in the middle east and has publicly stated he does not know much about the economy… yet.. he thought he knew enough when he operating with the Keating 5.. and ripped america and caused the biggest crash of the era.. of Saving and Loans..

    Reality tells it’s own picture.. and .. the same thing that took a nation up .. is bringing it down… ” racism”.. which at root.. is based on ignorance.. and we see the results of much ignorance in the manners which the economy of a nations has met it’s waterloo…and people still refuse to look within the depth to get a grip on what is within the core of the model.. this nation discounted and played down the world of nations.. as if it was better than all person… and now.. it is those other nations that hold the wealth.. of the world… what we have is debt.. and have been Bankrupt now.. for the 4th time.. and just write on paper.. and say we can carry more debt.. and yet.. everything is broken.. and some beyond repair…

    big pictures always show a broader view.. and the close up.. reveal more than many may see from a distance.

  • Brian D

    Ok, so I came across this site because of an article Mr Martin wrote on CNN about Lifeway Christian and it’s pulling of a certain magazine. That said, I decided to check him out a little more and ran across this. I am, quite frankly, dumbfounded. I seriously can’t believe all the negative content about Sarah Palin and her poor daughter. You all speak as though you have never made a choice, or “God – forbid” had sex out of marriage. To use biblical content to support your anger (Larry) is just blasphemous. John 8:7 – “… “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” This reference was not solely meant for the prostitute, but meant to apply to all of us. If we call ourselves Christians, then we blaspheme Christ when we throw stones at others for making poor decisions. There is definitely a difference between throwing a stone and helping someone to their feet and giving them tools to stay on their feet. I pray for you all and hope you all can experience God’s saving love on a personal level in your lives.

  • kuntakinte

    touch – how can you write so much and say nothing?

    blacks = the most pampered people in the history of mankind.

    never have so many done so little with so much.

    A loser people, stone age people lost in the 21st century.

  • touch

    This is the result of the dog and pony show.. where the smoke and mirror politics.. has led us to a nation that squander everything to support a wrong way war. Bush’s program used everything to create the delusion of a robust economy.. including setting in motion a program to get people to strip all the value out of their property and create a false real Estate boom… and they used the tax money from it, and the fact of the delusion, to leverage their borrowing.. to the tune of taking our Nation Debt to 9 Trillion dollars… it was all done to push a mad war, where he thought he’d get control of Iraq to make a deal to get first bids on their oil.. and as a result .. he crashed a Nation… they played every shuffle and shell game they could create on Wall Street, Until foreign backers noticed that new houses were not selling, foreclosures were mounting and job losses were escalating so there was nothing behind the sham … He even tried two time to send out Federal peasant check.. to keep the smoke billowing, and the last one did not work, and now we are seeing the game behind the smoke, of a nation that got played for the sake of war.. all because he had no program and thought by the military Industrial complex, he’s create an economy and at the same time take over another country for their oil… and the master sham… has been exposed.

    $700 billion is only the tip… People forget they lost 2 Trillion of fake value on Wall Street in Two days, thats not to count the addition 2-4 Trillion globally… Bush … the President who took down a nation… is that really any different than.. Bush.. is like the modern day Nero… standing Idle while Rome burned to the ground.

  • touch

    kuntakinte Says:
    September 24th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    truth is… put down comments won’t get you back on top and you won’t get to re-create slavery … so .. you game is broken and you delusion expose the simplicity of you..

    never in the history of the world.. has people remained so ignorant as to what you display… jealous and envious that blacks can share freely in self expression… and it exposes that you have nothing to say… and no means to construct anything to say… so you revert to the same game.. ” put down commentary”.. but .. whether you awaken from your delusion or not.. does not matter..

    the Chinese don’t list to that crap any more, the Japanese don’t listen to it, the Arabs don’t listen to it, and for certain Black people don’t listen to it… and none of the other regions of the world..

    and I’m sure it’s a sobering experience for you to have to face the fact that .. you are not in control of anything.. and more than anything have lost control of even yourself..

    the exposure of the rip off that crashed the banking, the financial community, the creation of wrong way wars and such things… belong in that same .. “secluded executive” suite.. that barred the doors so other could not get in… and still… you seek to blame others.. but .. reality speaks… and the world sees…..

    you vanish with one handle and come back with a different one.. and it’s no different than .. having a closet full of hoods.. that you alternate between which one you will wear each night… running in darkness with a torch.. looking to fire up a cross.. and trying to claim it’s in the name of Jesus.. but can’t face the fact that.. from the region of the world Jesus came … the people do not look like you..

    but .. you may need to give praise.. for the Fact that Jesus loved you still.. as different as you may be in the visual appeal.. and as evil as you present in your shutter mouth malice… and you delusional acts… and you present to those who’s skin matches your.. to be even unto those who have become to see the light of life.. that people are people… you become an insult to them.. and a disgrace unto yourself… absorbing yourself in the pursuit of ignorance, for the sake of public display of it..

    and the smaller you find that you are.. the more rabid .. you engage your utterances of ignorance.. and the stupidity of not knowing when ignorance finds truth knocking on it’s door.. and you stand with yet another pursuit to barricade yourself within….

  • MsL

    Bravo Touch…Rarely have I found such truth and wisdom….I was compelled to read every post.
    Where else can I read your writings???

    PS – Kuntakinte, my condolences on the loss of your soul. (I know, I’m assuming that at some point you had one)

  • touch

    there is like a madness… about the debates.. People forget the debates was MODERATED, there was not a open forum for the candidate to just talk about everything ..in 90 minutes.. but this madness in this nation is sad.. so many can’t get past the image of a black man, so they come up with anything and everything, but inside they know.. Obama is the better suited Candidate.. this country still functions from a ignorance..

    Now they put a woman in the arena, now the buzz.. is don’t be hard on her.. the point is.. DON’T GET IN THE RACE IF SHE CAN’T HANDLE THE STUFF AS IT COMES, without crying this feminist crap.. you don’t hear Obama talking thei racist stuff.. even as the media has clearly stated how much ignorance of racism is in the arena.. But this ..GIVE A WOMAN A PASS, MENTALITY… is just another level of American ignorance… showing itself to be of ignorance…

    NOW MATTER HOW THIS COUNTRY DOES ANYTHING.. IT ALWAYS WANTS TO INVOKE A DOUBLE STANDARD WHEN IT COME TO WHITE MALES AND WHITE FEMALES.. but they have a open game mentality on anyone else..

  • touch

    we are an insult to ourselves as a nation… criminal white males.. are the ones who ripped off this country.. but people don’t want to tell it like it is..

    Bush used this sham to prop up the war, and now the government is paying for it by bailing out the sham makers.. it’s no different than when Reagan could not get the money from congress for his south American war.. he put drugs in the minority Neighborhoods… and this round Bush set up so the value could be stripped out of property… to pay for his war..

    it just goes to show how much ignorance in within the American society..

    Even after the Debates, the stupidity of people, who could not listen to the points, they came to see a slug fest, so they never would have the mind to grasp the dignity Obama showed… because this is still a “cowboy nations”… looking for a six shooter and shit talker..

    that’s precisely why the foreign country beat us at everything, because they focus on the principal.. not on the drama making ignorance about matter… We are showing to be nothing but a remake of what American has always been.. and that’s a “shit talking, sarcasm slinging put down comment stupidity”.. and McCain exemplified it…
    he stood there like a racist old klansman.. pissed off because a black man was on the stage,.. he could not look at him.. Probably if he could have .. he’d have burned a cross right behind Obama’s back.. people don’t pay attention, McCain fought MLK day in Arizona for all these years, and for political gain he shows up at the rally.. and stupid enough to have a black man holding a umbrella over his head… that’s how insensitive he is even to the stupid stuff he does.. If he cound re-institute slavery, he’d vote for it in a heart beat..

    McCain talks about the surge.. the real surge was, how much the US paid in “MONEY” for the other not to fight… so they could look like they are winning.. all he talks about is yesterday… and no POW gives anyone any credentials to be anything but a POW… but this country is about as full of people who don’t know anything but.. pursue contention makers.. and that’s about the extend of what McCain has shown.. No one wants to talk about the reality of McCain.. and his Keating 5, his backing of Reagan, who was the catalysis of the rush in of the drug epidemic in this nations, with his drug for guns… and how it devastate the poor all across this nations.. There is not a damn thing to win in Iraq, it’s their country… and his cowboy arrogant ass.. is not going to get to colonize them no matter how much his lips drip for that objective.. Listening to some of his supporters, only reminds me of how ill informed and how basically ignorant people are… as if this is their last great white hope… while other whites destroyed and ripped off the country in wall street scams.. in another Bush elaborate scam.. to support his war… and now the war bill is due.. when the fake paper they traded has shown to be nothing but.. “fake paper”.. that cost America their very home..

    Whites in many ways show how they can be led like sheep behind anything, just the same as how they supported segregation for all those years.. and they were such staunch supporters, they taught that mess to their kids… and the whole nation of them.. followed it down to the letter.. and would attack, deny, put down and belittle blacks as if we were not even human beings… that’s how much they will follow stupidity and ignorance.. and it keeps showing itself over and over and over… except for the few.. who are more broad minded and can think… and those are the one’s who actually join in being what America is.. but there is a great many.. who are as backwards as they were during segregation..

    Wall street is run by “White Males” … and they are the ones responsible for this mess.. they don’t let women in those ranks, nor do they let minorities in those ranks.. now they want the same people they hate.. to bail their greedy ignorant ass out.. but the best thing about it is… The foreign nations, now have awakened and never again in the history of the world .. will they give these gluttons, blank check credibility.. they see the malice within them, the greed, and the scheme making ignorance.. and the over arrogance…
    but life is just what it is.. it showed over and over at each turn of history.. how malice minded they are.. they killed the south, and the farming of the nations, after slaves were freed, they have continually ripped off companies, and crashed markets every decade.. there is a scandal of some malice activity they do.. they have not missed a decade of doing so… but they won’t get to do it again.. now the rest of the world see them for the ignorance they push as their main agenda.. Selling lies… that has been their manner through the history of this nations.. But now.. the good whites, who are more worldly.. will not support the backwards minded post slavery minded slave clingers..mindsets.. and no other people will support it either.. and the world community surely has not desire to deal with such ones..

  • touch

    sure some of this stuff can’t be talked about in open media on network TV… and that’s a shame.. but it’s understandable.. because the people would do nothing but panic

  • W Johnson

    touch

    You stupid piece of crap.

    White people built the world.

    You’re just pissed because you are stuck in the gutter and can’t figure out how to get out.

    It’s so nice being up here looking down on garbage like you.

  • Kevin Facey

    I wonder what the Chinese have to say about white people building this world.

  • W Johnson

    Kevin Facey, why don’t you ask them?

    China is a third world communist failure of a country trying to move into the present.

    Did you notice all the pollution during the Olympics?

  • MsL

    W Johnson, you (and your ilk) are a sad excuse for a human being and a disgrace to America….Your ignorance is outstanding – such an angry being – so full of fear – it’s small empty minds like yours that give truth to the words of “Touch”……

  • W Johnson

    touch

    Can’t wait for your ignorant, naive comments about the current financial situation.

    If you studied anything other than socialism you would know it is called business cycles. We’ve gotten through them before and will get through this just fine thank you. Thanks, not to African or Asians (except Japanese who’ve had their own issues), but because of the WHITE MAN!

    How could the African possibly help, look at their toilet continent.

    Clown!

  • Sheron-OH

    Naive is not a word used in content to what is really happening in the economic world now. Greed perfectly knew what was going on -white man–and with GREED no one seemed to care. We have become a nation of ME -ME-ME and now We-We-We. But We-We-We only comes into play when the everyday person pays attention to the real issues and not some off the wall idealism–
    McCain was ignore to put out their oh look I have save the day and Obama did not nothing–but when it didnt work-he comes back to the drawing board trying to clean up his COWBOY attitude-talking about open mouth insert foot–it is one thing for people to think you have no clue it is another to open mouth and relieve all doubt.
    Obama was willing to let the process work with letting them know what he stood for as to the need for Congress to do something-but tried not to make it a political event-
    So lets not talk about the WHITE coming to save the day–I believe the Middle class is made up of all walks of life and not just the WHITE people.

  • MsL
  • http://dtodd Diane Todd

    Roland,

    I have only one question, “would they be this easy on Barack & Michelle’s 17 year old daughter if she was pregnant. I am sorry he would have to resign after the repulicans got through with him & Michelle. The repulicans can say what they want, but they would be merciless if it was the other way around. Also, that boy is NOT nor (I will bet my life) wants to marry that girl.

    Also “Touch” IS on Target, just ask the Indians and W. Johnson go and read your HISTORY or some History better yet go read some “Black History”? But then again, it’s men like you!! that has helped put this country where it is – I feel sorry for you. You are pointing your finger at Touch but you have three fingers pointing at you.

    My family has always been a Democrats and proud “Black Democrats” from my Great-Grandfather on. He passed it to my Grandfather, my Mother & her Brother, then to me & my Brother and now I have passed this wonderful party on to my two sons. Unlike W. Johnson, thank God they had parents to teach them diversity, truth and about people like him and to make sure that we read “ALL HISTORY”.

  • Kevin Facey

    Yeah, I notice all the pollution, however, their are becoming a world economic power, even though they are still a Communist country.

  • W Johnson

    Kevin Facey

    How many communist/socialist countries do you know of the prosper?

    Perhaps that is too deep a question.

  • touch

    W. Johnson, as usual…
    nut cases always show up to say nutty stuff.. You may care to look very carefully.. when you claim such glory, and you will see a series of screw ups.. one after the next.. and at the root of each screw up.. you will find a common thread.. “GREED”… THANK YOU, for owning up to that simple truth, and you are welcome to declare such for your self.. and I noticed, you keep asserting that youa re the spokes person for whites… . “go figure’..

  • touch

    If you note.. people complicate simplicity… “the simplest things to do is to freeze the home interest rate.. drop it down to 4.5% put a penalty of point’s payment on it if the people sell the property within 2-3-4 -5 years..

    Example.. if they try to sell it before then, the seller must pay.. the points down.. and one point can equal.. variable amounts depending on the sales price.. such as.. if it’s under 150k.. the seller will have to pay min. 3-5 points.. at the cost of 1500-2000$ per point. and set the points higher on anything over 150k… and let it be bracketed..

    this will force people to stay in their homes, and help stabilize communities.. but then all the mortgages, then become fixed rate commodity.. the controls are in place to make people pay a penalty for trying to flip properties.. and then there is not the instability in the market. Then set a freeze of the property valuation for a period of 2-3 years, that it cannot escalate over 10% per year .. for a term of two three years, and then if they really want to put controls.. then set it so that anything that shows value in sales price over 15% per year.. in a 3-5 year span.. then have it so the tax accessors has to make adjustment upwards on the tax roll.. on the property.. and they stop the madness in it’s track..

    then as long holders buy these securities, they buy assurance.. built in… then they can attract retirement fund managers, and other type of long holders… that need stable growth..

    I don’t get the people who get in these position to think… they make simplicity complicated, trying to pretend to be smart.. and you can’t outsmart life.. it will always crash in one you if you do… and they seem not to learn that point.

    this is how this country has mis-used education.. they don’t use it to better society, they try to use to to undermine society and give themselves some false delusion of power that is more fragile than a egg shell..

    the same principal can be used across the board in the financial industry… and then it cuts out the criminal minded people who dominate these markets, it’s pure greed, and if they stop looking for loopholes to support their greed.. they could fix this problem…but they are more about self interest than what is best for a nation.
    It’s like corporate salaries.. there was never any justification for any corporate head to make what some of these guys made… How do you let a man walk away with 57 million.. for a business that is riddled with bullet holes.. and is leaking like a ship with a crack down the center of it’s hull… and they run fast hoping the water won’t seep in … this is how educate is mis used and produces ignorance that become amplified by the self glory of these people.

    life is nothing but people.. no matter how the details of any matter resolves.. we will never be any more than just people… who have mortality that is and will come to take us as equally so as life is given to us… we will not live forever… and no amount of money will change that… beyond comfort and convenience.. the only other matter is greeds, and the lust for the illusion of power… and the same power that is craved, becomes the bigger burden to the power hunter… and most are ill equipped to deal with it, even when they get it… because they use it for imagery.. rather than development… that progress society and benefit people…

    and if anything that people engage, does not benefit people.. then there is something fundamentally flawed, and biased and bogus within the outlay of the program..

    some of these people will crash a nation.. for the sake of a re-election to a position they are ill equipped to manage, because if they were, they’d only be concerned about doing a good job and supporting causes that benefit the masses.. not what makes them look good, or think they are above life.. and one reality remains a fact.. we’ve seen it over and over… life will pull down any who claim such a stand… and they will and many do.. loose their integrity… and once it’s gone.. they are good for nothing, because they can’t be trusted for and with anything.
    That’s why the companies continue to fold over… they are riddled with ego maniac… that forget what their job is.. they are riding the title, till they destroy the company.

  • touch

    this madness in the media.. as if “white women” are the only women in America.. they keep saying.. ” blue collar workers” and follow it up with “white women”… as if the only people who work are white women.. This country is pathetic.. the White males who run the corporation have sold out the country, ripped off the industry and robbed the people.. and now all they can talk about is trying to turn power over with a claim of “white women, and white women blue collar workers’.. because now.. the other nations don’t trust the same males in this country when it comes to financial matters.

    Latin, Asian, Black and other women.. have the issues of raising their kids, and maintaining a job, and they pay tax, just like white women, they have families with the same matters of interest to them. and they are BLATENTLY IGNORED, AND NOT EVEN MENTIONED… not even the lest of ways, unless they can find something negative to say about them in the media.. .

    These Are Faces of American Woman Too

    Asian women, Black women, Latin women, and every other kind of nationality of woman exist in the country.. and they are discounted by the same ” white woman pushing media”.. they have nothing but “white women on the media, pushing for another white woman, they don’t give a damn, if the woman is as dumb as a rock, they only see they can push the image of “white woman” to take what ever the white male has sold out his integrity in the business world behind, so everything for month is nothing but “white women voters”.. and if they are so stupid to vote for the sake of a woman, than the policies.. then the next screw up.. should be blamed on the “white women and white women voters”… We saw this stupidity in the primaries.. where they jumped parties, because the “white woman” did not win.. they forgot all about the policies.. all they saw.. was they’d not vote for a black man.. and they ran to McCain, just becase he selected a “white woman” .

    this is no different than the process that happened in corporate America.. any slot they could not fill in the executive suite with a white male, they chose a white female.. they over looked every other nationality of woman and every other nationality of man.. they only opened the door to “white women”..

    Racist ignorance is the foundation of this nation.. it has been and it continues to be so… it will take the next generation to change it… because most of the men that push the “white woman” are old “white men” who were born during “Jim Crow”.. and their whole mission is to make sure anything and everything they can stays in the hands of whites by any means they can conjure up..

    there should be a outrage by all the women of other nationalities, every time they yell out this “white women voter” and claim they will be the controlling factor in everything political..

    they already dominate the entertainment scandal sheets, and the marriage jumping media frenzy of the entertainment industry.. and then they want to talk about morality and family values.

    If any other race of people had produced in the top arena a under 18 year old pregnant.. they would have been disqualified and called immoral and every other nasty name they could attach to them..

    this society is so biased and still stuck in it’s post slavery mindeset… that it can’t break free.. becase it wants to hold on to everything.. at the cost of any and everyone..

    They don’t even want to fix the housing crisis because it just may help some minorities.. and by God that is the last thing the Republican congress will ever do.. They want to run every Mexican back to Mexico,.. now they can’t use them as house keepers, and the white males now want all the lawn service jobs, because the factories have been shipped away.. but when they did not want to do these jobs.. the gates was open to Mexican people with a welcome sign… but since they can’t use them for 1/2 the pay in the companies.. all of a sudden.. they claim the Mexican have taken down the economy..

    and this country has the audacity to think the Arab will let them come over there with this .. I’m the master mindset” and take over their land.. Hell no… they will blow up anything and everything before they ever let that happen.. but an asshole like McCain.. will stay and he believes it.. that he will stay there a 100 years trying to break them down and make the accept colonization… and he’s just a fool.. because they will never submit to this brand of american racism and ignorance of thinking they are masters in their land..

    But this craziness about “white women voters, should tell the whole world something” about how biased this nation is.. and how prejudiced it is in the core of itself.. and maybe some will get to understand what Right Wing Conservatism truly means.

    they despise anything liberal.. because liberal means.. to be of liberty in the justice of equality … and they are having none of that.. in a conservatism Agenda… if they could invoke slavery, they’d do it in a heart beat.. and think nothing about it and claim themselves right to do so..and as their privileged in doing so..

  • W Johnson

    touch, how is down there in the toilet?

    Must be getting cold now that fall is here.

    What have socialist countries ever accomplished?

    You LOVE Osama because he is only 1/2 white. And need to claim he is black because a full blooded black can’t accomplish anything.

    Shine my shoes while you’re down there, will ya, boy.

  • W Johnson

    t(d)ouch(e)

    CDC: 1.1 million Americans have AIDS virus

    dey all be colored?

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

  • evangelical

    As an evangelical I promote abstinence only in my household ( as for me and my house; we will serve the Lord). However, knowing that an overwhelming majority of girls age 14 have already engaged in sexual intercourse it is evident that their needs to be some sex education that teach abstinence only AS WELL AS sex education. Our teenage girls are engaging is risky sexual behaviors at an alarming rate, something has to be done about this. Children need to know their options and they need to know the consequence of pre-maritial sex in order to make more informed decisions about sex. This girls in no way believe that they could possible contract a life threatening disease just from one unprotect act of sexual intercourse. Education our children!!!!!!

  • touch

    fight the reasoning if you will or if you want.. but truth will prevail, no matter what battles you wage to try and prove it otherwise”.. “Truths”.. come in the most wondrous abstractions of the system of this world… and they stand always above the fray of the chaos..

    It’s a sad day in a nation, when a Candidate such as the Republican runner. McCain and Palin.. seek any devise for the gains of office..

    If that does not tell the American People what kind of officer and Leader they will make, then American is chasing a delusion to think

    they would be otherwise,.. beyond the malice they show, the biased and one dimension convention they hosted, and their ranks filled

    with people who are from an Era of Time before now… America Stands at the doors of change.. the days of old, of the times, McCain has

    Sat in his Senate Seat, and time and again let jobs be shipped away.. claiming “deregulation and let the market handle itself”.,.. has over the

    years, while letting it handle itself.. has been a “ship away machine” gone wild, with tax breaks for doing so, this has been far since and along with

    the failure of the Saving and Loan mess, of which he was a key figure, to the disaster of a war, which again he is key figure, to the melt down on

    Wall street which again he is a key figure in that demise.. with his .. “Deregulation, and Claim that the Economy is sound”.. how much more out

    of touch can anyone be, but he has been out of touch for so long, it’s not even likely that he could come into the 21st century of world change.

    Nations around the Globe .. praying that American people won’t be unaware enough to vote in some of the same as the past years have produced, nor to vote in

    a monger, who wants to talk tough, and avoid diplomacy as a mainstay in International policies.. But Yesterday is gone, and the last Bastion of Yesterday,

    Runs based on the mindset and tactics of an American that long ago crashed and burned, which he hope to re-resurrect..

    He’d sell of social Security, the medical care and anything else that benefits anyone of the American people, who are not already rich.. He’s like a bitter old man,

    angry because the days of entitlement is not open for him to keep alive, and he is angry because the world has progressed, and don’t fall under policies of a Jim Crow

    International program mindset. he is angry, because he can’t stay and fight Iraq forever, with his hopes to colonize them, and he is angry, because he was a military loose cannon

    and did not get General or Admiral, and was always 1 minute from being kicked out, if his Father had not been an Admiral, which gave him a “hands off” status, and allowed him

    to be a “wild man without a mission”.. and did not wake up, until he was locked up, and soon as he was free.. he came home, dumped his wife and hit the playboy circuit. but his wild

    Hope of .. Usurping his Father and Grandfather by becoming Commander in Chief, and claim for his family status, success above his Father and Grandfather, is his true motive, but none will say it, but everyone knows it’s a self vain glory mission… His whole convention told the story well.. it was all about.. Give him military status, and give him the glory of commander in chief, so he can wallow in surpassing his fathers achievements..

    We already had one of those, with the Bush.. ” I’m going to kick Saddams butt for threatening my daddy”… and the wild man rampage followed within such a mindset and mission.

    he continues to say nothing…”but we are going to change Washington… well.. what a laugh.. for 26 years he sat there and is part of what is the problem.. so much so he is the problem.. He showed his backwards, image pursuit mindset with his.. fake claim of suspending his campaign.. when truth is he went there to “speak at the Clinton fund raiser” and as a result threw a monkey wrench into the process so many people were hard at work upon… and then he got his hat and left..

    Now, it’s amazing how many more acts that he has to complete before Americans can see him for the foolish Old man he is, on a glory mission, at the expense of a Nation… for his grand delusion of being what he is not… and he is certainly not.. “Presidential Material for a Nation as American is.

  • W Johnson

    touch -

    What do you do for a living?

  • touch

    This brief letter is a brilliantly concise and comprehensive statement of the not-too-subtle racist message of the Republican presidential campaign.

    From Letters to the Editors @ Fort Worth Star-Telegram – today

    How racism works

    What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

    What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

    What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said ‘I do’ to?

    What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?

    What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

    What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

    What if Obama were a member of the ‘Keating 5′?

    What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

    If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

    This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when
    there is a color difference.

    Stupid News commentators..

    who want to talk about Bill Ayers, but they don’t want to talk about Keating 5

    it’s like this country is stuck on stupid… Republicans and their fight to revive the racist america, is the basis of the McCain Campaign.. they have said nothing, they propose nothing and they do nothing.

    He’s set his elitist ass in congress, with his racist mindset for 26 years.. and every failure of the nations, he’s sat his ignorance in the congress, riding the tide as long as it got his cronies paid,

    He is and was and will be “DEREGULATION KING”… just like the asshole from Lehman, sat there looking like the dumbest man in America, after he has stole the public blind, and can[t answer a simple question.. this is the nature of “the good ole boy network” … they have robbed, and stolen anything and everything they could.. and then get before congress and lie, because they have their buddies like the Republican greed masters, covering their butt…

    this crazy process of McCain is the lowest level that this country can sink… and old fool, trying to play yet another swindle game on the American people… It’s insane the Republican base could be so out of touch.. but they are as we saw in the convention.. old racist people, from the Jim Crow America.. so how can they ever be anything other than people who cling to such backward ignorance..

  • touch

    # W Johnson Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 9:47 am

    touch -

    What do you do for a living?
    ______________________________________________________________

    I own my own corporation… and no it is not a business for only one race of people.. It is a business for “All People”… It promotes “ALL PEOPLE”

    It also has a “Youth Program”… that is for the development of youth, and introducing them to Civic Pride..

    I detest Racist Ignorance… I detest.. ignorance in this campaign..

    McCain.. has said nothing.. he says nothing.. he rides on the glory war days, and he keeps talking about changing something.. but he has committed to nothing, he has no agenda.. and for 26 years he has done nothing.. but sit there with his endorsement to the wasteful spending and every other thing that has plagued this nation.

    he sounds like he speaks to the people as if he thinks they are stupid.. sounding like an old man with a scam.. he has no dignity in his advertisings, he will say anything that he thinks the people can suck up..

    he has been right there, while the Debt reached 10 Trillion… he has sat right there while china has 23 billion a month surplus in trade..

    But to see nothing but white American following this idiot.. brings a big question to what and why are people who are white so un-informed… to follow such ignorance..

    but again.. THE WORLD IS WATCHING… and all the masses of white who support this fool, are doing is insulting their image around the world… THE WORLD IS WATCHING, as a bunch of white males on Wall Street, has stole and ripped and scammed and robbed this country, and sit before congress with an arrogant attitude.. looking like some of the dumbest idiots in the world, and people can’t see what kind of stupidity that runs these corporations. But the world is seeing the true nature of this mess.. they crash the Economy every 10 years… and this has been going on since the demise of slavery.. because if they can’t enslave .. then they steal and make sham games.. and it’s the history of this nation..

    The people I work with.. I insure they have dignity.. they are not pushing the promotion of racism, and they learn to see it for what it is, when it is, and how it is… because the devise of it’s process is the culprit that brings this country to demise time and time again..

    but the likes of McCain will eventually die out.. and America can move ahead to be a nation of people who respect other people… many of these have long since died.. and he is the last stand of his breed.. and when his types of mindsets are gone.. the world will progress …

  • W Johnson

    touch – As usual you cannot answer a simple question with a simple answer. You babble endlessly.

    Have you noticed NO ONE cares of your babbling?

    How do you get paid? Sounds like your corporation is another freeloader on those who do something productive.

    You don’t teach them to spell or write do you? Or are you the root of the Ebonics movement?

  • MsL

    Roland – PLEASE – BAN W. Johnson and his racist hate-mongering and ignorance from this blog.
    “ENOUGH is ENOUGH”. What this country needs now – more than ever – is CIVIL discourse. He and others like him are part of the past. It’s time for the future.
    Thank you.

  • touch

    unless you are paying me … I don’t think it’s your business how I get paid… !!!

    it’s purely amazing that you still live in yesterday… but the “masses of whites have moved on past the mindset that you have, … you seem to still thing the “white man” can get over on other’s by “put down games”…but the world does not acknowledge that stuff anymore..

    but you may find out, that not only does the world not acknowledge, it’s “your” brethren, who crashed and robbed a country and made it’s value so low that it’s bankrupt.. but I guess as normal, you can’t see reality for trying to put your foot on the neck of a black man… that that your sold your last clothes and underwear, and stand there naked to the world… trying to find a way to get your foot on the neck of a black man..

    truth is .. if your fear of blacks was not so great, you probably could think of something else to do..

    I bet you run around all day, hoping a black man will slip and fall, so you can get your foot on his neck..

    I’m quite thankful, that was I not gifted with the impact of ignorance that seems to have infested your life.

  • touch

    you sound like a nut case. :) ) :) ) Now if I gave you an answer to match the absurdity of your question… you’d like that wouldn’t you..

  • touch

    “From the Debate” :

    when McCain said he was talking about taking care of veterans, NO.. that is not what he said.. he never ventured to expound that, so thats your assumption about what he meant… when he speaks up upping our troops and the saber rattling about Iran and other things, “THAT REPRESENTS MONEY”.. no matter how you look t it , it’s about money.. more of this that and the other… so you can’t preach cutting Military, while still talking about “WINING” a war, which is really an occupation, and then there is the real war in Afghanistan, so you can skew it as it suits, but it means money.

    As to De-regulation, McCain learned nothing from his role in the Keating 5, if he had he’d not be talking de-regulations, he’s be talking accountability.. If he had championed it so much as you claim, the doors to the cash vault would not have been left open for this mess on Wall Street, and the Insurance companies. If he is so up to date on this tuff, why 15-18 years after the mess of the LInciln Saving, then he would have taken measure to see what was unfolding, but he has sat there voting on what he thinks gives him popularity, rather the the substance of the matter… and they would have been building in controls..

    You guys don’t get it… I said it in these very same blogs, over a year or more ago.. that the economy was tanking, and the dollar was damaged and the system is out of whack and the thieves have been looting the house, but most of you guys, all you could come back with was some silliness saying ” touch, is just bitter and etc”.. because you did not want to face the fact..

    when this is all said and done, the Dollar won’t be the standard for world currency.. it’s has been damaged not just in value but the integrity that stood behind what represents a dollar.. and the idiots on wall street and congress have insulted this nations countless times over the past 8 years, in every category that is imaginable.. How does a nation talk crap about China, and then run to them with their Hand out.. that’s pure hypocritical .. and we sat of 10 TRILLION DEBT.. maybe that figure does nor resonate with some of you as to what that means, nor does the 53 Trillion in consumer debt…
    what that represents is long term ongoing “failure”… it’s the sum total of cumulative “Failure”.. failure to self correct, failure to acknowledge , failure to address, failure to act with resolve, and failure to monitor, administer and failure to govern the institution within a nation. this failure has been now the result of a ripple affect and effect around the globe, because other nations invested in the belief of this nation and it’s institution, and they got ripped, and truth is they will never accept that again, it’s been a cycle process of the same thing for 20-30 years, and the rest of the globe are not going for that. No matter what you guys think, the other countries now with the money, don’t see themselves as “third world countries”.. no matter how much this country tries to rate them downwards,.. the wake up call is here. and the bugle has been sounding from other nations for the past 8 years, and it’s been ignored with tough talk..

    now as to WAr, how the hell can you claim a surge worked, when it was mass amounts of money paid to the opposition, not to fight.. which gave the troops time to re-position themselves.. there’s more stuff going on than any of us know… an none of it is benefiting us one bit… because they have asked us over and over to get the hell out of their country, and the pig headed, “I’m going to get the oil, or die trying” attitude is what is the problem.. all those talking about I’m wrong for pointing out the failure of Bush.. but here he is can’t even speak for his party candidate, he does not come in public anymore because his presence further insults his party, and he is not doing any more of his grandstanding tough talk, and his approval rating is below 25%… but let you guys tell it,.. I was off target, but it most certainly shows that I was not…

    Deny anything you choose… it won’t change the facts that exist..

    Bush is the one sitting in the drivers seat, when the dollar fell off the block, the economy crashed and became bankrupt, corruption in oil and financial markets acted and showed it was ran by a bunch of Pirates, the smoke screen ripped all the equity from the property of a nations and leveraged it on an open market, to give a false delusion as if the economy was moving, to prop up a sham, to borrow more from others, and in 8 years he doubled the Federal debt, and companies has crashed and burned by the 100′s and millions are out of work.. NO child left behind, left a nation of children behind, Tax cuts to the rich only helped them rob and get away without question, they can’t even be prosecuted for tax evasion, because the policy left the door open for them to cart off the loot of a nation.. call me what you want, but it won’t reverse any of these messes… California the richest state in the Nation is Bankrupt.. and small town all across the country are damn near ghost towns, and factories are now filled with cob webs, and spiders… and here is A nation rallying a man, who knows nothing about the economy, has not regard for the middle class, and has a cellophane quality about foreign policy.. and want to talk tough and act like he’s the tough guy when a nation can’t feed and house a big % of it’s population..

    If these candidate for the Republican were as they claim then they would be able to run a campagin, but they can only complain because the opposition has a better run campaign, a better connection to the people and has broken ever record in campaign history.. is it was a white man who had done this they’d hail him as king.. but being a black man did it, they want to criticize his ability to be a good speaker and a good manager of campaign process, and campaign finance, and every other aspect of campaigning.. but it’s purely typical of this nation… no matter what a black person beats a white person doing.. they claim him .. still not good enough.. rather than see him as purely a man… he did not bring race in this thing as an issue, and he did not go and ask not one of the historical civil rights leaders to join nor speak for him… he ran this as an American Candidate who just happens to be black… and this racist nation can’t deal with that.. they continue to interject the racial bias in the game.. they started this in the primaries.. and no matter what he accomplished, the claim of not being qualified is nothing but the same as the 46 year ago jim crow.. that a implied that a black man is never suppose to look a white man in the eye, he is never suppose to stand toe to toe with a white man and speak up, and god forbid that a black man ever tell a white man he is wrong about anything, even is the white man is wearing two left shoes… This is the historical make up of this nation.. and the arena is full of people who still have much of the jim crow grooming within them.. becasue most of them are over 46, and grew up in households, neighborhood, and environments that such stuff was pushed…and supported.. you can try and discount it if you choose.. but even the conventions showed how wide that divide is..

    the nations went thru and is going through.. and many can’t even digest the thought of a man with dark skin being the leader of this nation.. it hurts some people to their core.. because they will never give up the core racist delusion of “white is right”.. ” and white is entitled”… and the global community is well aware of this.. Even when it comes to social security and welfare.. they blind themselves to the fact that the greater % of recipients are white, all they can do is sit around and resent that anything in any remote ways helps blacks, but they also ignore by choice, the fact.. that many jobs still have closed doors to blacks, and the fortune 500 shows that clearly.. they have what maybe 4or 5 blacks out of 500 , and that’s just the fortune 500, then if you look at the NASDAQ, the number get worst, and every other collective commodity tracking of corporations on a trade board. You can’t find not one black corporate leader, that shipped a company out of this country… because they were not in the executive suite to do so.. and people blind themselves to this, all to claim a black running for office is not qualified.. what appears not qualified is the predominant white runs institutions, that have ripped this country off, and sold off it’s labor jobs, and sold off everything that is imaginable to be sold, rather than to share the opportunity among minorties and women, and it goes all the way back to UNion Busting, when minorties and women became able to get in the Unions after 1964, then the claim became .. Oh’ hell no, they can’t make what we make and they can’t have the jobs where they don’t have to work like a slave… by God.. get the jobs out of the country, because we will be damn before we let them share in this, and have the power of a Union… and it’s the same principal that killed the Plantations… they would not pay for labor, instead they rather let the plantation fold over.. and then claim blacks are lazy because they won’t work for nothing.. but you also did not see the “majority of white people rushing to work any plantations”.. so if it’s such honorable work, why did not the white people rush in and fill the void.. but the Plantation failed becasue there was not way this nation would share opportunity and income resources with black, and then stand back and say.. ” Oh the blacks should have this or that, when they knew damn well you can’t get it without gainful employment”.. so they created a bunch of slave making programs, where you can’t make 50 cent above what they give you without them shutting down the help…and it’s careful orchestration to keep people down.. and most of the program that whites despise, they don’t investigate enough to know, half the money for those program is earmarked away before it ever gets to the people, and they have enough to fund it for maybe 3-6 months and then the program is broke… that’s like going asking for a loan when you need a 100$ and someone loans you $5 and tell you.. by God.. that is more than enough…
    when white have issues, they call it depression when whites options and opportunities are curtailed they call it economic depression, when their spirit is diminished by the lack and limitation, they call it enviornmental depression.. but when all these same things are real in black.. they call the people lazy and shiftless… the Jim Crow mindset.. prevails.. which implied by the doctrines of Jim Crow, that black people are thieves and this and that… yet.. the more we see it’s the white corporate owners who continue to rob and crash the economy, and walk off with bags of loot.. an Immigrant who can’t speak english, can come her and get 0-3% loans for home and business, blacks are offered if they are offered.. loans that can spiral up to 20%.. and then far less than what is needed.. This is the real American… that whites refuse to see.. becasue they have so much and for so long had a sense of “entitlment”.. and think if everyone don’t emulate them.. they then condemn them… no less than how .. they called the Indians “Savages” because the Indians did not live like them, they went to Africa and called the people “savages” becasue the people don’t live like them… and this cycle seems to never stop..
    but then whe whites are put in the same position of no money and no options.. they suck down the crystal meth, and other drugs, rob, rape and kill and molest .. more than is reported… you don’t see Asian, Black nor Latin, abducting women like it’s a sport and hacking their bodies, the Priest molesting kids, like they have their own sex toy factor of a continual stream, people killing each other for insurahce, and every kind of horrendous crime imaginable, and it’s down played, and always claimed.. “oh, they were just depressed”.. the kids go and shot up school… the same things.. “oh they were just depressed”.. Even with the women teachers who have hit the news for molesting the boys and running off with them… we are yet to see this happen in Asian, Latin or Black situation with numbers like we see in the white community.. across these united states..

    now this is stuff that many like not to have it discussed…but they are johnny on the spot to point fingers at anything that happens in the black communities. White kids can have their pants saggin, and society figure, Oh’ they’re just youth, but black kids are called “thugs”… white kids have gangs and race based gangs’… and its, “they are just boys going throught their growing pains”". blacks it said.. they are just thugs and criminals… but more drugs are sold by the multitudes of whites in this country than by blacks… and there are by far more white alcoholics in this nation than there are black, they just hide it differently..

    so beyond politics.. look at the full picture.. and more things become visible…

    this county has a long ways to go… before it embraces the truth of equality… and it has a long ways to go before it embraces the realism that exist, and until it is embraced, this country will continue it’s path of being what it’s roots groomed it to be, and that is a country of bias, and inequity..

  • touch

    “with Racism and the madness of things in life”

    it may take this country another 20 years to correct itself…
    there are areas where many black have to find out and figure out, to let go of drugs, let go of street violence, and let go of the anguish that has been build up over the years.. and no fall prey to their condition, and not fall prey to oppositions.. many poor black neighborhoods are devastated by the young selling drugs, and not pursuing education, and getting lost in material things, this is a problem that is extreme in some areas.. and they have to let go of, being cool’ and becoming educated,… instead of learning the wrong stuff, learn the right stuff..

    and find ways .. not be pissed off because doors are shut to them, but find out how to open new doors in their lives, and get back to a root nature of respect the community, not terrorize it, and not lead the younger kids into the same madness of the quick money spin of drugs..

    if they stop for one minute, and ask themselves.. how do guns get to them and how do drugs get to them, they will open their eyes and see.. that stuff that is pumped into their enviornment that benefit it none at all.. then shut the door to this stuff.. shut the door to youth on youth violence… this is no longer the house slave against the field slave.. and there will be no classes to teach them, how to over comes the remnanats of what was induced in the specturm to insure there was no unity… if they stop and realize that history is full with the process that were passed on from one generation to the next.. of how a system by it’s process and it’s control methods.. practiced method to divide the blacks during slavery, so they could not amass and unify… then if they understand that, and what and how that has been a generation things.. then they will stop in their tracks and see.. NOPE./.. no more.. there is not a whip and noose, to force people to have devise among the masses.. and they have to learn.. NOPE getting material stuff is not the measure of a man or a woman.. it is getting knowledge and using it…

    so long there was this image placed that , men were bmeasured by who had the most of this or that who had the newest of this or that, all trying to aspire to what whites had, as if that would be the thing to gain respect.. and it’s time for people to see different.. forget that crap.. get your respect by feeling equal, thinking equal, and let no one make you feel unequal.. as a human being… and then much of this stuff can be shed and move on to a time when people can get the last remnants out of their system.. and they can began to heal, and over come the depressions that were instilled for so long…

    I attribute the wide obesity to depression and the cycle of it from one generation to the next.. Even with black women, they can get in the office of the world, but they can’t get in the executive suites, so they spin, and then they get lost wondering why their men are not there, when on one hand they know the door is closed to him, and on the other hand.. they know he is challenged to have to be three times as good to get in the front door..

    so there is a great deal of work that has to be done in the black community… and then bridge the gap… and relate across all boundaries with a mindset of being, feeling, thinking and knowing they are equal… be aware of what ever one is aware of, but be without bias in your dealing with other.. regardless of their group, ethnicity, color or their processes of living.. just deal with people from a stand of being equal… don’t try to emulate them, just be yourself… and when you see injustice and bias.. address it head on… don’t shy away from it, or hope it will go away… address it, and be without .. the contentions just be with the debating realism, to engage it in discussion… because as with life.. it’s about making real.. what is real… that it can be made better.

    This is the age of change…. and we must step with the vision.. of “Equality”…and make a new day in a old country… and make it become a New Nation..

  • W Johnson

    t(d)ouch(e) -

    Black people are not in the office enviorment because they can’t do the work.

    And, if you happen to be open minded and hire one, you can’t fire them when they can’t do the work.

    I have two blacks working for me and I am working on firing them. Their work product is pathtic. Black Tax your ass. My admin can’t even send mail to the right address. My black tax preparer with 20 years experienced is outworked 3-1 by a Chinese girl with 5 years experience. The owner has been hesitant to fire them ONLY because they are black, but, I think I have one out of here. Then I’ll start working on getting rid of the other.

    Keep lowering standards and living in the gutter you feeble poop.

  • W Johnson

    t(d)ouch(e)

    From the New York Times today –

    The United States is failing to develop the math skills of both girls and boys, especially among those who could excel at the highest levels, a new study asserts, and girls who do succeed in the field are almost all immigrants or the daughters of immigrants from countries where mathematics is more highly valued.

    This is what the country is becoming because of idiots like you who feel education is not important.

    Ebonics, man! You and your idiot cohorst will turn this country into any sewer like your beloved motherland, Africa.

    Pathetic.

  • touch

    W. Johnson…
    Talk with your people, voice your objectives and voice your wants of performance, and share with them the understanding you feel and seek the unifying indemnity of purpose..
    it is a great service to be of service unto others, if we hold contempt in our hearts, it shows on our face and comes forth thru our ways… we see it not, because we are the holder of it… and therefore when the rebuke of it comes unto us.. we are angered.. and yet.. first look within ourself to find it’s root.

    I have people who are not up to speed, but what I do .. is I give them regard for what they can do, and show them how to do what I want them to do, then I share with them the purpose, the intent and the objective, and ask them.. to equally so own it, as it benefits them as it benefits me..

    for years I had teams during working for a major company.. they told me the group was shiftless and did poor work… I wrote out a mission statement, and I organized and created for them the frame work of professionalism.. it included, delegation, it started with a daily briefing, and outlay of the challenges, the conditions, current events, and the objectives. I ask them questions, of what do they think, what matters do they see that may help them work better.. and then I set out and put the tools they needed in an orderly manner, so none had to wonder if they would have their basic tools required for their work.. I gave them decision making power of their function.. and I told them what the standard of expectations was.. and that I would hold them each.. individually accountable for their portion..

    beyond what people may thing,.. but individuals want responsibility.. but they need to know they have a certain amount of autonomy within it.. and they need to be acknowledged, not always for the big things. but the little things..

    I made Salad Day… it cost me nothing.. but a few head of lettuce.. some tomatoes, and other vegetables.. and not only that.. I enjoyed making it.. not only were my words showing them the grace,.. it was by my hands doing so too..

    a pay check is a pay check… it matters in every way that it matter.. but what matters, … is that we “respect whom we pay’ .. first as a person, and then as an individual… and they will show and share what you never imagine is within them to share…

    You are angry.. but what is angry is within you.. and what you resent.. taken more from you, than that which is being resented can ever take from you… and thus you… make havoc with your life.. by holding contention.. at what needs not the motive to contend.. but to befriend…

    you may ignore me if it suits you to do so.. but .. I need not verbalized agreement… because the agreement must be within your heart with yourself…. and then you will find more than you imagined.. could be enjoyed as well as shared…

    I just met a white woman, in a parking lot while promoting my business.. and she was telling me her story.. how had arrived at a transition point.. she spoke of her skills, her education and her background… I could have taken it as embellished emphasis, but I did not… I took it as motivational desire, and I ask her what would she like to do, and what within her dreams would she like to contribute into the shared working arrangement.. and we discussed not money.. but what of the challenges within life that our efforts could offer.. She called me last night, she said she felt our meeting was a divine intervention for her .. and it suited the expanse of the variety of her long held desires… and we talked for 45 minutes… over the phone…

    so when the conversations was over.. I had told her, I would write out some items for general discussion.. so we can have a structured discussion on Tuesday… and here are some of the outline items..

    Working Arrangement and Terms for Agreement Considerations

    Some Areas for Discussion ( other areas will be discussed later)
    • Marketing and Promotions and Public Relations
    • General Advertising
    • Patterns and Layout – (Event Operations)
    • Operational Data Base Management ( Administrative)
    • Sponsorship Relations
    • Vendor Management ( Administrative)
    • Youth Program – City / School Board Coordination
    • Supporting Event Planning ( Administrative / Production Planning)
    • Staffing Coordination ( Teams)
    • Job Fair Production
    • Accounting & Book-keeping Maintenance

    What are your Interest and what considerations are important to you.
    • Legal Association
    • Tax Status (Relative to Legal Association)
    • Title Designation
    • Other interest / concerns

    Understanding Financial Management
    • Terms of Compensation and Interest of Considerations

    Investment Considerations
    • Time (discuss)
    • Resources

    Expansion and Growth
    • Outlines and Objective Goals
    Skills and other
    • Please list some areas of skills, you are interested in putting to productive and progressive use.

    Attitude and Disposition Regarding Money and Finances
    • Thoughts on the subject.
    Youth and People promotions Interest
    • Thoughts on the subject
    Community Development:
    • How do you envision our community benefit
    • What would you like to contribute to support community development
    • What do you see, as contribution to our community Senior Citizens.

    Personal Stats

    this is all the Resume Info that I need… but not just for me.. but for her.. as well.. she can express herself as she sees fit… and desire to do so.. not some scripted resume’.. that tells nothing of the person.. not does it allow people to tell you their story, and their aims.. and what they want..

    Jobs and working arrangements are not just about what the employer wants.. it’s about building a team… that is mutually beneficial.. the matter of money is a process of business.. what matters is the working relations of people..

    if the current meltdown in the financial market does not convey that message to people.. then nothing will.. it is the people working within you.. within the scope of the business that makes the matter of business great…

    I wish you these best .. in progress in your business…

  • touch

    life corrections… the shell games have caught up with the shufflers..

    the thing with the Mortgages are not much different than it was with the “dot coms. only it is bigger and more saturated, and they played it on a global scale.. as a fast money game… trying to pretend economies were doing what they were not…

    America forgot, one key elements, ‘NO NATION, IS STRONG WITHOUT IT’S INDUSTRIAL BASE”.. and this country sold it’s industrial base, and thought it could survive shuffling paper, and controlling commodities markets.. but it ignored that if the base of the population is not working, then the paper that is being shuffled, will eventually deplete itself of it’s equitable value, and then it will be over leveraged, and there is no , economic viable industrial base to re-infuse it with an ability to maintain itself, not to grow and mature itself to regain more equity..

    This country preaches, that the poor countries are poor because they have not Industrial complex,.. and while preaching the principal of the value of industry to a nation.. it was at the same time selling it’s industry.. all in the name sake of looking for the next slave labor pool, who work for next to nothing.. and it thought it could just be a giant “management house” of what other’s produce..

    the country was built on the premise, and they did not learn anything, when the south fell in the 1800, they shifted and thought, Industry could be the answer, so they abandoned even the mechanism which provided the raw resources for industry, and went off shore seeking it, and therein began it’s demise.. cycle.. it let falter it’s internal Industrial machine.. and the crash of the 30′s became to sweep a nation, which had no available work…

    Now it’s a reliving of it based on a grand scale, as it’s base of Industry is weak, it has few if any leading Industrial complexes, not in textile, not in other categories, not even in the construction of the item, that propelled this economy fast foreward, which was the automobile, they sold that off too.. by trying to have every component they could produced in foreign markets, and then they thought they’d just sit back and snap the pieces together and sell it.. never realizing .. if the industry in the nation did not support the public to have employment by making those parts, then they also would not have money to buy the assembled product..

    the result is always the same.. when this nations seeks out ways to seek something for nothing…and when it’s time to pay up to be up.. it fails.. it fails when it’s time to share the prosperity among the people thru Industry engaging the people.. it fails…

    because it is a nation, that was built on the premise of seek out slave wage labor, at all expense, cost and conditions.. and each time, it becomes poorer than the nation it tries to enslave, becasue it transferred it’s industry there, and the pennie it thought it was paying become, dollars in those poor nation, and this nations pile of pennies, continue to shrink..

    The model, is built on an ideology, that is flawed,as it is seeking to get the most for the least… and thus what result it is gets less and has less in the end result… because the nations that share the investment back into itself, that it share it to employ and keep employed it’s masses, gains strength thru it’s masses, because industry then can survive to support the industry which fuels a nation.

    We make transistional shift.. the great fall of the 30′s came when man went from the combo on manual labor to mechanical labor, the world became more mechanized.. and the lag factor of poor transistional skills were the culprit along with the mindset that sought out methods to sell or contract out the manual labor to other nations, as it thought it could just switch on a dime to mechanized labor, and the pool of the non working grew, and the income generation within a nation fell. the same thing happened again, when man tried to switch to the technical age… and move from the mechanical, to the blending of tech with mechanical.. and robotics came.. he again fell… and then he wants to switch from the tech, to the information age, and in the transition.. it fell… because it abandons without clarity of what it abandons.. seeking our more for less…and not grasping the process of transition and having the patience to move it’s people in a process of untidied transition.. we stand at the brink of even further falls.. becasue man.. is at the brink of ” automation, which infused with robotics, again leaves the masses unemployed.. with lack of work…

    example..

    A wherehouse today is manned by maybe a crew of 5… where before it took a crew of many 25…

    the machine, sorts and store it, the robotic process stacks and unstacks it, it loads and unloads it, and it wraps and unwraps it, the data base, produces the computer generated stats, and the programs tell the system, when various levels are reach and what time to speed up or slow down.. and shut off..and a electronic report is sent to another data base, which calculate the rate and return, and that is processed in another system with sales and delivery, while a whole seperate system, process incoming raw materials, the conveyor system sorts separates and delivers raw materials to the mixing pot, and the conveyor system churns out products, cuts and wraps and box it, and the cycle continue..

    people are used only as system operators, system analysis, and system tech support, system managers, and quality check point, ( when it’s not done with an electronic eye).. and the product arrives for end use..

    then, the electronics take on a whole differ process, from scanning inventory, RFID tracking, electronic automated order point processing, interlink from cash register to data base accounting programs, and a “report reader”.. who inputs.. data.. not because it needs to be, only as a “systems confirmer”.. because the interlink in the data system has already computed the total…

    so man tries to run a country.. as a {“paper manager”} and control it by buying and selling the paper.. unaware that he is shrinking his consumer base and creating the inability of the consumer to afford to purchase… so they put in the credit system and ramped it up, when it began to fail, they released the process, to make use of the earned equity, and when it was depleted.. after they borrowed and leveraged against the illusion of equity, by the false illusion as if the economy was robust, when the equity was stripped and spent.. there there was noting… and what resulted what the game of “short selling” trying to make a market appear as moving, by selling what it did not own, bidding it down, buying it and returning it, to the owner and keeping the difference…. it paid for it at a lower price..as opposed to the value

    (example) To profit from a stock price going down, short sellers can borrow a security and sell it, expecting that it will be cheaper to repurchase in the future. When the seller decides that the time is right (or when the lender recalls the shares), the seller buys back the shares in order to return them to the lender. The process generally relies on the fact that securities are fungible, so that the shares returned do not need to be the same shares as were originally borrowed.

    The short seller borrows from their broker, who usually in turn has borrowed the shares from some other investor who is holding his shares long; the broker itself seldom actually purchases the shares to lend to the short seller.[1] The lender of the shares does not lose the right to sell the shares.

    this process heats up, at the peak of the cycle, when there is no viable industrial growth and production and consumer income has fallen to the “fail” point..

    and short selling was the same, game played in the crash of 1929… and is noted as one ot the culprits… what is does is it creates, over leveraging, to show where it is , and the inflation is set in motion to compensate, and spike hit the varieties of commodities, and the consumer price rises, for a consumer, that already does not have the income to support the consumption.. and credit fails.. and the expose imbalances of poor leveraging % show up, and lending shuts down, and the run on the banks come, as everyone realizes that the market is over valued, and is set up on a paper chase… and the market sheds it’s gains..and becomes a wild roller coaster ride, and the big ticket boys, take their profits, and to the victors who hold the cash,.. they come in and buy up the spoils for pennies on the dollar, and new conglomerations are formed..

    As a result the global playing field is “reset” to a level of competition, so the leader stays on top as the leader..
    because the others who have lost value, fall in their net worth, and thus the debt. the leader holds looks smaller, because the loss and debt ratio of the weaker economies, put them at more of a dis-advantage %… and the board gains, are wiped off the map.. and the game is reset… and each time.. the order of world economies are changed, as to who hold what position.. and they have their summits, and deal with the structure of the new players…

    China has been know of it’s position change.. but it also.. has % factors, that does not push it’s power to be the lead.. because it has internal mass.. it’s wealth is not in proportion to it’s population, in a equalibirum of distribution.. so as a mass, it has not the wealth to uplift the mass in a changed standard of living.. therefore it will not push itself forward to claim the world leader, because it cannot support distributing wealth to all it’s mass as a mass standard of living upgrade across the board, therefore it cannot support the external distribution that a leader must support.. in support to weaker nations.. If .. china was a nation of say.. 300-500 million, with it’s resources, it would lead and could lead.. but it has double the max of that +.. so it’s internal obligation outstrip it’s ability to assume leadership in an across the board status.. and it probably does not want that position, because it is extremely costly to be a leader.. and to hold and administer the lead position..

    China’s position, is to try and build now, it’s internal consumer base, it has established trade and trade flow, but it cannot grow without it’s internal base growing, and it is aware that it’s goal now is to become an internal consumer of what it produces.. if it can achieve that.. which by the population numbers.. it will then have the power to be and to lead a world and support the outlay that is necessary duty and function as a leader, but it’s a very very bigh game role to play..

    People don’t gather it, but the British, were glad to be rid of the burden, it cost them in every imaginable way… and yet there were wars, before it’s fall… but once it fell, it put up no fight when it was time for it to leave regions… by example.. when it pulled out of HKG, it did so with a smile… on the big board.. because if it had stayed, it did not have the ability to support what it would have had to support by staying.. and if they had though they could, they would have fought to stay..

    they spoke of New World over over 25 years ago, and the cycle has completed a phase of it’s structure.. and we are at the crux of it’s transition.. where the new order is showing it’s structure.. by confirmed declaration.. and what is within it’s position as being such..

    coupled with the change from these matters.. the world is at the entrance of not just these dynamic.. but the preponderance of how shall it be fuel.. as it relates to “energy”.. and we are at the turn point, of engaging a new.. “energy shift”… so we may have a rougher ride than many even imagine,.. because the energy shift should have been elevated in it’s process over 25 years ago..

    it’s so bad at this point, they are pumping salt water in wells, trying to squeeze the remaining drops out of the sand residue and the sludge left within old wells.. and we have not the refining capacity to drill new wells, so they left it on the shelf, hoping something else would happen before they have to resort to tapping into the last of the fossil fuels in it’s pre-leased grounds…

    but to truly grasp the dynamic of the spectrum.. all thing education has to be factored, from the philosophy that supports a nation,to the psychology of a nation, to the sociology of a nation, to the Civic of a nation, to the economics of a nation, to the mathematical calculus of a nation.. to the trigonometric dynamic of what and how are the support components fused and linked and what can they bear, and what are the ratio’s … that matter in the relation of these factors… and then how to you.. have a cultural dynamic shift.. in cultural reordering of these element to a different paradigm..

    and these are bewildering factors.. to systems.. that think in secular terms… abut world and societal matters.. of organiz